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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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So you are saying we don't need the Navy to do this. Good.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:41:57 am     #   1 person liked this

We could bring in Coast Guard Station Toledo but they are all trainees. No joy.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:47:26 am     #  

I thought DORA was going to be cancelled because of the Mud Hens game , you know those rowdy baseball hooligans can cause a lot of trouble

posted by Hoops on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:51:39 am     #   1 person liked this

I guess this is the threat too great for our combined safety forces to overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsUGvlDkjpg

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 10:06:00 am     #  

There will be fights tonight, with or without "DORA." That's the territory that comes with boxing/mma matches. I have been to vegas for two Mayweather fights - each time I have seen fights in the streets following.

Cancelling DORA wasn't the answer and I am glad to see it reversed. More security is needed no matter what, but banning drinking out of red solo cup wasn't going to keep the peace.

I will be at the fight tonight and it will be a blast, however, it is not a family event. Just the way it is and it has nothing to do with race as stated above by 6th floor. Its the clientele. A lot of drunk, rowdy, 20-40 year old males.

As you can see in the video posted by Justread - bunch of white dudes trying to be boxers.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 30, 2017 at 10:39:08 am     #   1 person liked this

justread posted at 10:06:00 AM on Jun 30, 2017:

I guess this is the threat too great for our combined safety forces to overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsUGvlDkjpg

you can take the Sports Arena out of the city, but you can't take the Sports Arena out of the people.

posted by ahmahler on Jun 30, 2017 at 11:21:50 am     #   2 people liked this

ahmahler posted at 11:21:50 AM on Jun 30, 2017:
justread posted at 10:06:00 AM on Jun 30, 2017:

I guess this is the threat too great for our combined safety forces to overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsUGvlDkjpg

you can take the Sports Arena out of the city, but you can't take the Sports Arena out of the people.

Funny. I almost asked if it was a Goaldiggers game. :)

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 11:24:13 am     #   4 people liked this

I only know I don't wanna be where the popcorn flies. Would rather be eating it.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 11:26:42 am     #  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0&list=RDKnnHprUGKF0#t=71

Shakira said it: No Fighting!

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 12:36:14 pm     #  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0

here's from the start

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 12:38:52 pm     #  

The chief was neither racist nor completely off base in his decision to suspend the DORA. His job is to keep the peace. Removing street drinking from a fight fueled atmosphere is pre-emptive policing. It may have been over reaching in that he didn't have the authority to do so. As a proponent of the DORA I am glad it was reinstated. This weekend will be a test. Hopefully people there for the fight behave and don't foul things up for peaceable bar hoppers.

posted by mixman on Jun 30, 2017 at 12:48:26 pm     #   1 person liked this

I'm too cheap to drink in bars, am too suburban snobbish to go downtown and in general, just not very smart, so can someone explain to me exactly what DORA is? The way I understand it, there is a designated zone that you can walk around with open containers purchased from bars within that zone?

Bars will still be open and alcohol available, so how much more risk does DORA present?

Type slow, I'm a dummy ☺

posted by JoeyGee on Jun 30, 2017 at 01:07:24 pm     #  

mixman posted at 12:48:26 PM on Jun 30, 2017:

The chief was neither racist nor completely off base in his decision to suspend the DORA. His job is to keep the peace. Removing street drinking from a fight fueled atmosphere is pre-emptive policing. It may have been over reaching in that he didn't have the authority to do so. As a proponent of the DORA I am glad it was reinstated. This weekend will be a test. Hopefully people there for the fight behave and don't foul things up for peaceable bar hoppers.

Anybody who didn't anticipate the resources the DORA would make necessary to operate smoothly and achieve the intended outcomes should work much farther from public policy. The whole idea of opening and closing the DORA based on subjective data related to a wide variety of potential events and visitors is unsustainable and will lead to more problems. If we can have a DORA, we can have a full-time DORA. If we don't have the resources to support the DORA, this is a hell of a time to decide that.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 01:18:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

Well after all, it is for the children.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 01:22:51 pm     #  

That's a good point. So they didn't really anticipate the staff needed for an event like this. I'd say give them a break. The people in charge are new to this ballgame, too. It's a learning experience for everybody. As long as it's well patrolled and people don't get stupid, things should be ok.

If a person is curious and feeling a little brave, a good spot for crowd watching might be Downtown Johnny's balcony across the street from the Huntington Center. It's a small balcony so get there early for the best seats.

posted by mixman on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:28:48 pm     #  

So they didn't really anticipate the staff needed for an event like this. I'd say give them a break.

I wasn't going to take it any farther than here, so I doubt they will ever know we had this talk.

But this was not a hard one to anticipate. And these are the emergency management people. I'm not going to protest. But damn, man. Let's project some confidence while we dial it in, shall we?

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:42:09 pm     #  

btw... have fun, be safe.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:44:02 pm     #  

I'm too cheap to drink in bars, am too suburban snobbish to go downtown and in general, just not very smart, so can someone explain to me exactly what DORA is? The way I understand it, there is a designated zone that you can walk around with open containers purchased from bars within that zone?

Bars will still be open and alcohol available, so how much more risk does DORA present?

Type slow, I'm a dummy ☺

Any number of rejoinders come to mind, but charitably speaking, you can't be too much of a dummy because I don't see you on SwampBubbles. And yeah, that's a deliberate shot at the SB users with IQs a full ten points over their belt size.

Here's a link for you: Downtown Outdoor Refreshment Area

From the article:
DORA (Downtown Outdoor Refreshment Area)

The area bounded by Summit, Adams, Lafayette, and Erie streets comprises the Downtown Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA). Cups are sold in the DORA between noon and midnight daily.

Adams St. Outdoor Refreshment Area

The Adams St. Outdoor Refreshment Area exists along Adams Street between 11th St. and 21st St. Cups are sold 5pm-1am Monday through Friday and 12pm-1am on weekends.

Note that there's a real difference here, and the two do not go hand in hand.

If the local government had its collective head screwed on straight (even close enough for government work), they would take an extended vacation into two areas: Bourbon Street in The Big Easy, and Beale Street in Memphis. Look at what's going on, observe the police presence, go down to Bourbon on Fat Tuesday and observe the crowds.

Instead of making a bunch of rules no one wants, join the two areas and make every night Saturday night. Eventually a couple cheap hotels will get developed, and additional cops will be added. But that will be okay, because the liquor sales will drive up tax revenue... which the city will misplace until the next levy fails. Or something.

Forget the cups, cup tax, stupid rules. People drink. Get used to it.

posted by madjack on Jun 30, 2017 at 04:44:36 pm     #   1 person liked this

Is Cilantros closed at dinner time on weekends now? Our neighbors walked over there around 7ish for dinner and said they were closed. They also couldn't find any hours posted. Hopefully they aren't going to be like Veritas was and just close up early whenever they feel like it.

I don't know how they are surviving with no liquor license. A good margarita or Corona is a must have for a lot of people that go to Mexican Restaurants for dinner and not to mention the money they are losing out from people that would stop in for a before or after appetizer and cocktail. A few places have failed there with a liquor license and full menu and stayed opened late and I can't imagine he would have a big enough lunch business to make a profit in that location.

posted by classylady on Jul 07, 2017 at 11:51:10 pm     #  

According to their webpage Cilatnro's is open until 10 on Friday and Saturday's, 3 during the week and closed Sunday so they really cut back on their hours. When they first opened they were going to be open until 4 a.m. on weekends at least then it dropped to 2 before they even opened and then 10 and now they are closed Sunday's and only open until 10 on Friday and Saturday.

According to their facebook page they are going to have their liquor license "soon". Soon could mean over another year by some businesses standards:) They've been open over two months and I think a liquor license is something a business of that type should have before they even open.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 08, 2017 at 04:19:49 pm     #  

Cilantros will be squeezing their hours until they reach the optimal level...at the food truck. The 4am weekend hours were as laughable as the 7am weekday opening hours.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 09, 2017 at 10:36:48 am     #  

A friend and I decided to give Cilantros another chance last night and they were open around 7:30 P.M. but the place was dead and they may as well have closed early but the Hens weren't at home and not much was going on downtown.

Still no liquor license so the only thing you can drink is pop. There was only one couple in there eating and while we were eating two ladies came in and left when they found out they ordered margirittas to start out with and were told they had no liquor license and another couple came in just before we left.

Service was really good and the only employee waiting tables was the bartender but she only had two tables to wait on. We were given chip and salsa without asking for them and at no charge (they really got slammed in their reviews for charging $3.50 for those so they have probably realized it was a foolish move for something that costs them around 50 cents). I had two street tacos that were even better than Poco Loco's and that is saying a lot since I love Poco Loco's food.

Not sure why they serve breakfast since they don't open until 10 a.m. My friend asked if there was any word on their liquor license and she told him the state said it was approved but refused to give them an official date which I thought was strange. On their home page they state their liquor license will come sometime this month.

We biked down to Poco Loco after for a margaritta and that place was packed and then went next door to Clario for dessert.

I think Cilantro has a chance of doing well if they keep the service up and get a liquor license.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 09, 2017 at 02:16:59 pm     #  

For anyone who wants to check out Cilantros, there's a $30 gift card for $15 on Half Off Toledo.

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 09, 2017 at 04:15:06 pm     #  

We went to Poco Loco last night about 8:30, it was packed , told it was about 45 minute wait for a table if we wanted food, decided to go wait and sit/order a drink in that other room, that bar area with a musician. That room was almost full also.

We were initially told we could order drinks only in that room, but after about 15 minutes they started letting people in that room order food also. Took almost an hour to get our food , I think because they weren't used to tables in both rooms ordering food, but it sure was worth the wait, it was so good. This time I got the grilled pineapple with shrimp, delicious. Our waitress was awesome.
Their homemade sangria is really good, too.
The OT was doing a good business, too, lots of people milling around in and outside, having fun. Nice to see uptown doing well !

posted by foodie88 on Jul 09, 2017 at 04:26:32 pm     #  

Pier 7 still not open last night. It was pretty crowded with the volleyball crowd and the restaurants all doing good business. Ended up at El Vacquerro on the patio with a good view of the ProMedica construction nearing completion.
Pier 7 is missing out on the prime time of the season !

posted by Hoops on Jul 13, 2017 at 08:45:00 am     #  

They only announced it last month! Give them some time. :)

posted by upso on Jul 13, 2017 at 11:18:57 am     #  

I looked inside the building and it looked like they had a lot in there

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 13, 2017 at 11:44:36 am     #  

I know the guy doesn't have a lot of credibility based on his previous dealings as cited in above posts, but......

It looks really good, seems to be doing it right and the concept, especially when volleyball is going is great for that area. Should attract people.

Now if only we can get a water taxi eventually between promedica park and the docks.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:07:17 pm     #  

I know the guy doesn't have a lot of credibility based on his previous dealings as cited in above posts, but......

It looks really good, seems to be doing it right and the concept, especially when volleyball is going is great for that area. Should attract people.

Now if only we can get a water taxi eventually between promedica park and the docks.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:07:18 pm     #  

I love the idea of a water taxi. Better yet open up the old shooters bar and have a water taxi between there and the docks.

Boyfriend and I love to walk but it's a pain to get to the docks on foot from Downtown. I think it would be great to have a shuttle the runs every hour between Uptown, the Warehouse District and the Docks.

I wish there was an option like the docks on the east side of Summit street.

posted by classylady on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:55:08 pm     #  

Maybe Im off course, but I dont think The Docks has been done a whole lot of favors by the City of Toledo and ODOT. MLK Bridge closing and extensive delay, horrible condition of that access road, Miami St bridge closing for a year and a half......the list goes on. I love the concept of The Docks, not to mention it offers a visually appealling aesthetic to look at from Downtown. Gives life to both sides of the river. But it is well past time to fix that area up. Parking lots and lighting are terrible. That road is a joke. Dress up that area and make it a destination. This wont require a major investment either.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Jul 13, 2017 at 02:21:45 pm     #  

That road is horrid. Top 5 worse roads in Toledo and there is A LOT of competition.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 13, 2017 at 02:41:58 pm     #  

I think I see an opportunity here. Kind of like the golf cart and pedicab thing only gondolas for a water taxi service. Now I just need a name. How about Charon's water taxi service. When the Maumee freezes over we could switch to dog sleds. What do you think?

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 13, 2017 at 03:01:40 pm     #  

Bob Brooks, the original owner of the Sandpiper tried to be a taxi between both sides in the late 80s. Then the owner who bought the boat also tried. The Sandpiper has a new owner now. MAYBE they can make something happen?

posted by golddustwoman on Jul 13, 2017 at 05:00:37 pm     #  

Just messaged Pier 7 and they said this:

"Our first event with a charity will be July 21st-July 23rd, and we will release a grand opening after. Look out for tickets. Come check us out! Thank you for your interest!!"

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 13, 2017 at 07:04:19 pm     #  

golddustwoman posted at 05:00:37 PM on Jul 13, 2017:

Bob Brooks, the original owner of the Sandpiper tried to be a taxi between both sides in the late 80s. Then the owner who bought the boat also tried. The Sandpiper has a new owner now. MAYBE they can make something happen?

If any of you downtown coffee hipsters remember Jodi from Biggby... that's who owns the Sandpiper now.

Personally... I don't think that's the right vessel to be a taxi. Although it could work. A real water taxi built for boarding and a little smaller than the sandpiper with modern propulsion system would be key. You could drop people anywhere, and you could nose up to the end of the floating dock when there are boats all along it. You could also drop people at the yacht basin behind the hotel next to One Seagate.

posted by justread on Jul 13, 2017 at 07:50:08 pm     #  

Lots of rules for ferrying boat passengers, however. Lots and lots.

posted by justread on Jul 13, 2017 at 07:51:46 pm     #  

Once everything really starts moving along downtown, do you think the city will start reaching out to attract more boaters ?

I hate to sound like an old timer, but back in the Portside days, the boaters really brought a lot of revenue to downtown.

It would be nice to see that again !

The boaters enjoyed docking and going to the restaurants downtown, and the city seemed to welcome them. We had a couple boats back in the day, and really had a good time docking and hanging out downtown.

I don't see or hear anything now though, as far as the city trying to attract the boaters downtown. Whats the deal ?

posted by foodie88 on Jul 13, 2017 at 08:22:58 pm     #  

I was a contractor at OI in the mid 90's. I seem to remember some form of water taxi then. I don't remember ever taking it, but lots of talk about there being one. Do I remember that correctly?

posted by JoeyGee on Jul 13, 2017 at 09:59:24 pm     #  

At one time, I thought that a small, yellow boat taxied people across the Maumee River in downtown Toledo.

posted by jr on Jul 13, 2017 at 10:18:48 pm     #  

Promedica has sold Fort Industry square to a developer. Will announce the buyer soon and they sold it for the price they paid.

I was personally hoping Promedica spearheaded the redevelopment because we know they will do it right and efficiently. However, I am sure they have carefully selected the developer as that property is critical to the space Promedica has already developed.

Anyone have any idea or hear any rumors of the buyer?

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 08:04:09 am     #  

Xbuckeyex posted at 08:04:09 AM on Jul 14, 2017:

Promedica has sold Fort Industry square to a developer. Will announce the buyer soon and they sold it for the price they paid.

I was personally hoping Promedica spearheaded the redevelopment because we know they will do it right and efficiently. However, I am sure they have carefully selected the developer as that property is critical to the space Promedica has already developed.

Anyone have any idea or hear any rumors of the buyer?

Where have you heard this?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 14, 2017 at 09:10:46 am     #   1 person liked this

The theory here being if they announce they are planning it, it has actually already happened?

posted by justread on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:04:53 am     #  

The rumor has been Prater since early this year.

posted by slowsol on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:20:55 am     #  

justread posted at 10:04:53 AM on Jul 14, 2017:

The theory here being if they announce they are planning it, it has actually already happened?

Correct. Oostra and Promedica have a track record of following through when they announce a development. Obviously, not 100%, but he isn't known to just spout off and not produce.

Prater - is that the Michigan developer of Berdan Building?

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:55:37 am     #  

Why aren't we using local developers for more of these projects instead of using Michigan Developers?

I think they are doing a great job on the projects but why are we giving tax money that comes from local and Ohio taxpayers to companies in Michigan like Eyde where we know the profits won't be put back in the local community

posted by classylady on Jul 14, 2017 at 12:43:44 pm     #  

For whatever reason, we don't seem to have many, if any, good local developers for these major renovations of old buildings. Plenty can do new construction.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 01:30:37 pm     #  

FYI: the Adams Street Cafe started serving breakfast as of today

posted by upso on Jul 24, 2017 at 07:49:48 am     #  

upso posted at 07:49:48 AM on Jul 24, 2017:

FYI: the Adams Street Cafe started serving breakfast as of today

Menu?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 24, 2017 at 12:38:50 pm     #  

They only posted a glimpse online... best to call or stop in to confirm:

https://www.instagram.com/theadamsstreetcafe/
https://www.facebook.com/theadamsstcafe/

posted by upso on Jul 24, 2017 at 01:06:08 pm     #  

The crew at Cilantro's really doesn't appear to have a clue.

New hours 7/31/17
Monday through Saturday 7am till 8pm
Closed Sunday's
Breakfast all day

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 26, 2017 at 10:39:19 pm     #  

Does Cilantro's have their liquor license yet?

They need to buy an espresso machine and serve coffee drinks and Mexican pastries and they may get a better breakfast crowd. Or open up a kiosk just for breakfast in the lobby of one of the bigger buildings downtown like PNC and just carry a few items and they would probably do more business than on Huron street in the morning.

posted by classylady on Jul 27, 2017 at 12:19:51 pm     #  

classylady posted at 12:19:51 PM on Jul 27, 2017:

Does Cilantro's have their liquor license yet?

They need to buy an espresso machine and serve coffee drinks and Mexican pastries and they may get a better breakfast crowd. Or open up a kiosk just for breakfast in the lobby of one of the bigger buildings downtown like PNC and just carry a few items and they would probably do more business than on Huron street in the morning.

Stopped in for lunch today. Looks like they are getting it next week. Also chorizo and eggs was great and the home made hot sauce had some serious kick.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 29, 2017 at 01:26:22 pm     #  

But even if those programs take some lunchtime business away from downtown restaurants, the economic impact of ProMedica will extend beyond traditional meal hours, said councilman Sandy Spang, who is preparing to open a new coffeehouse on Madison Avenue that will serve late-night cocktails.

“I don’t think the value of ProMedica’s coming downtown is entirely about lunch business,” Ms. Spang said. “It’s more about the fact that there are going to be a lot more folks that are going to be spending time downtown before work and after work, just creating a critical mass of people.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/07/30/Lunch-rush-might-not-be-so-rushed-near-ProMedica-headquarters.html

It's comical that Spang was quoted in the article. She sure is preparing...for a couple years to reopen a space that housed a similar business. However, of course the writer chose to not include that with the story.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 30, 2017 at 10:50:08 pm     #   2 people liked this

“I don’t think the value of ProMedica’s coming downtown is entirely about lunch business,” Ms. Spang said. “It’s more about the fact that there are going to be a lot more folks that are going to be spending time downtown before work and after work, just creating a critical mass of people.”

The critical mass will be at Summit and Monroe as they all try to flee to points south and west at the end of the day. In their cars.

posted by justread on Jul 31, 2017 at 05:50:42 am     #   1 person liked this

Who do I see at the city to get my panhandling permit for Summit and Monroe?

posted by Mariner on Jul 31, 2017 at 07:38:48 am     #  

6th_Floor posted at 10:50:08 PM on Jul 30, 2017:

But even if those programs take some lunchtime business away from downtown restaurants, the economic impact of ProMedica will extend beyond traditional meal hours, said councilman Sandy Spang, who is preparing to open a new coffeehouse on Madison Avenue that will serve late-night cocktails.

“I don’t think the value of ProMedica’s coming downtown is entirely about lunch business,” Ms. Spang said. “It’s more about the fact that there are going to be a lot more folks that are going to be spending time downtown before work and after work, just creating a critical mass of people.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/07/30/Lunch-rush-might-not-be-so-rushed-near-ProMedica-headquarters.html

It's comical that Spang was quoted in the article. She sure is preparing...for a couple years to reopen a space that housed a similar business. However, of course the writer chose to not include that with the story.

This article makes no sense, halfway through a HR rep states most employees will have longer than a half-hour lunch, so doesn't that make this whole article incorrect?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 31, 2017 at 07:44:36 am     #  

Nah. They also have an above ground underground garage. They can have hour long half hour lunches if they want.

posted by justread on Jul 31, 2017 at 08:19:24 am     #  

I saw this picture, and thought it made a pretty powerful statement about how important it is to promote mass transit and bicycles in an urban area. It compares the amount of space an equal number of people occupy on a bus, on bicycles, and in cars.

posted by Johio83 on Jul 31, 2017 at 10:03:29 am     #   1 person liked this

Had dinner last night at the new Brim House restaurant at the Rennisance hotel downtown. They did a series of soft launch dinners to make sure the kitchen was ready to launch so I know the menu we sampled was not 100% solidified...

That said it was REALLY nice! Very pricey (think Chicago pricing not Toledo) but the food was for the most part very rich and absolutely delicious.

posted by upso on Aug 01, 2017 at 09:09:43 am     #  

Boyfriend and I were originally going to dine at home last night in the mood for Mexican last night and decided to give Cilantro's another shot.

We knew what we wanted and I called in a pick up order only to be greeted with a voicemail that said "the person at 567-312-8759 is not available" For God sake they've been open almost three months, they should have a personalized voicemail set up. And there is no excuse for a restaurant not to answer their phone during business hours, especially when you have no customers.

We went on their website to make sure I had the number correct (which I did) and noticed you could order online. They must be expecting a lot more business soon because there was a reservation link. Placed the order online and went to check out and I noticed the amount seemed high and when I looked at the detail there was an online fee to order on their site.

Boyfriend was hoping they had their liquor license and was in the mood for a margarita as was I so we walked down. Place was dead and we were told they would have their liquor license at the end of the week. By then we were so pissed off we walked back home and grabbed the car and went to Poco Loco. Place had a good crowd for a Monday.

Until Cilantro gets a liquor license and their act together we're sticking with Poco Loco and San Marco's. It's too bad because Poco Loco has some good dishes with eggs and I love their street tacos.

posted by classylady on Aug 01, 2017 at 03:58:35 pm     #  

Why is Cilantros closing so early on weekends if they'll have a liquor license? It seems like they change their hours every other week. I went to Poco Loco tonight and they were doing good for a Tuesday night with nothing happening downtown. I tried their sangaria this time and it was really good, made in house and it looked like he added a splash of sprite to it

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 02, 2017 at 12:24:53 am     #  

I see Bleak House will now be closed on Mondays.

posted by classylady on Aug 03, 2017 at 11:27:28 pm     #  

That's probably because they've been killing it Saturday and Sunday with their brunch. They have a very small staff and everyone needs a day or two off...

posted by upso on Aug 04, 2017 at 08:59:07 am     #  

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know they were open on Sunday's. I see they are open until 2, will be nice to have another alternative to Maddie & Bella's on Sundays.

I like that they change their brunch menu every week. The vegan moon pie and chocolate waffles sound tasty. I may have to go both mornings this weekend so I can try both:)

posted by classylady on Aug 04, 2017 at 02:40:13 pm     #  

Bleakhouse could close Mon-Fri and hardly anybody would notice...coffee recently has became a very bloated business DT.

If Sandy Spang (approaching 2 years) ever opens her place it'll be even more crowded.

However, Rustbelt Coffee is doing better than all of them combined. I never would have expected it reading and hearing negative press about their beliefs, but they have built a large following. Good for them to ignore the disgruntled folks here and elsewhere, who often vocalized a boycott of all things related to Rustbelt Coffee.

My wife buys furniture there very often...several thousand dollars spent there this year. During a couple RB shopping visits, their entire inventory was purchased by various interior decorators. I'm pleased she buys refurbished pieces at RB, rather than overpriced, imported, junk at big box retailers.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 05, 2017 at 11:43:37 am     #  

Has Cilantro's obtained a liquor permit or have they again lied to generate business?

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 05, 2017 at 11:45:25 am     #  

Getting excited about a long delayed beaurocratic promise is a crime to which many, opening restaurants, are guilty of.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 05, 2017 at 04:54:14 pm     #  

As of yesterday Cilantro had no liquor license and I was told next week. I'll believe it when I see it. Went to Blarney after finding out they had no liquor license and the place was packed, we were lucky to see two people leaving and grabbed their barstools. I don't remember seeing it that crowded outside of St. Patricks or Mudhens Opening Day.

Went to poco loco tonight. They do a great business. We went to Claro coffee after and were the only two people there. I really like their coffee. Maddie & Bella was doing a great business this morning as was the Farmer's Market

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 05, 2017 at 09:09:25 pm     #  

Didn't get down to the Farmer's Market until about 12:30 yesterday. Still a pretty good crowd shopping away. Downtown was busy. We noticed a lot of people sitting on the patios of many downtown establishments enjoying the early afternoon.
To my knowledge, there weren't any special events so it was nice to see people out and about for no particular reason other than to enjoy the day.

posted by Foodie on Aug 06, 2017 at 04:12:22 am     #  

I was at the farmers market around 11 and they were really crowded. I missed the Wholey Toledough donut truck but he was on vacation.

The Jehovah Witness convention was here this weekend and last but that crowd wouldn't have been at the Farmer's Market. I think a lot of people were just out enjoying the nice weather.

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 06, 2017 at 04:42:12 pm     #  

JW crowd - that explains it. I was wondering why parking was being offered for $10 if there was nothing going on.

posted by Foodie on Aug 07, 2017 at 12:07:43 pm     #  

Foodie posted at 12:07:43 PM on Aug 07, 2017:

JW crowd - that explains it. I was wondering why parking was being offered for $10 if there was nothing going on.

It was only offered to the first 144,000.

posted by justread on Aug 07, 2017 at 12:13:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

Gnats and mouse droppings found on Kobe Bay's latest inspection. Yum.

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Restaurant-Report-Card-72717-Jing-Chuan-436922833.html

posted by dell_diva on Aug 09, 2017 at 01:25:14 pm     #  

I mean, how could they even SEE gnat droppings?

In other news-cilantros has 86'd their breakfast hours, however, now serving breakfast all day (starting at 11).

posted by ahmahler on Aug 10, 2017 at 10:12:05 pm     #  

Cilantro's changes operating hours every week it seems.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 10, 2017 at 10:46:08 pm     #  

I've never been to Cilantros, don't know anything about it and don't even know where it is, but I am completely intrigued by the place. I almost want to pick a random time during the week to go eat there, just to see if I can. For extra fun, I'll ask about their liquor licence.

Within that epic status that Mexican restaurants hold on ToledoTalk, Cilantros is developing their own unique, almost legendary identity.

posted by JoeyGee on Aug 10, 2017 at 11:27:43 pm     #   5 people liked this

Pier 7 is continuing the trend of restaurants enthusiastically providing an opening date and subsequently falling flat on their face with timeliness.

They do have a "Coming soon" sign taped to the door and apparently there will be another event there August 17-20.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 13, 2017 at 09:46:46 pm     #  

6th_Floor posted at 09:46:46 PM on Aug 13, 2017:

Pier 7 is continuing the trend of restaurants enthusiastically providing an opening date and subsequently falling flat on their face with timeliness.

They do have a "Coming soon" sign taped to the door and apparently there will be another event there August 17-20.

I think later this week, qualifies as coming soon. The next event is a soft opening-which is a limited offering opening to work the bugs out. This is pretty typical. I noticed they hosted a couple of preview charity events in July.They Announced June 5 in Blade, opens, less than 3 months later... what am I missing?

posted by ahmahler on Aug 13, 2017 at 11:40:59 pm     #  

I think a soft patio opening is the softest of all openings. :)

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 06:10:26 am     #  

Btw... people clamored for a water taxi. The Sandpiperpeople have added a water taxi. Go use it so we don't lose it.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 10:34:51 am     #  

justread posted at 10:34:51 AM on Aug 14, 2017:

Btw... people clamored for a water taxi. The Sandpiperpeople have added a water taxi. Go use it so we don't lose it.

Any info on this, re: prices, times, etc

posted by ckbeats21 on Aug 14, 2017 at 11:21:59 am     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 11:21:59 AM on Aug 14, 2017:
justread posted at 10:34:51 AM on Aug 14, 2017:

Btw... people clamored for a water taxi. The Sandpiperpeople have added a water taxi. Go use it so we don't lose it.

Any info on this, re: prices, times, etc

None of the fine detail was shared. Just the confirmation of the acquisition yesterday afternoon. But you are welcome to contact them.

This was insider information, which is often early and incomplete.

Thought the clamorers would be happy to hear it nonetheless.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 11:54:19 am     #  

I can't wait to hear the inevitable "THE WATER TAXI WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN ON THURSDAY AND NOW IT IS MONDAY AND OMG DOWNTOWN TOLEDO IS DYING BUT THE CHINESE CHECKBOOKS ARE COMING".

posted by endcycle on Aug 14, 2017 at 12:44:58 pm     #  

endcycle posted at 12:44:58 PM on Aug 14, 2017:

I can't wait to hear the inevitable "THE WATER TAXI WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN ON THURSDAY AND NOW IT IS MONDAY AND OMG DOWNTOWN TOLEDO IS DYING BUT THE CHINESE CHECKBOOKS ARE COMING".

Yeah, but their boats are junk.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 01:27:32 pm     #   2 people liked this

justread, that was fantastic.

Also, seriously, if someone started a water taxi with a junk, I would single-handedly keep them afloat (my wordplay game isn't as good as yours) with the daily trips I'd be taking just to be on it.

posted by Johio83 on Aug 14, 2017 at 01:47:01 pm     #  

....took me entirely too long to get that joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_(ship)

posted by endcycle on Aug 14, 2017 at 02:44:01 pm     #  

Johio83 posted at 01:47:01 PM on Aug 14, 2017:

justread, that was fantastic.

Also, seriously, if someone started a water taxi with a junk, I would single-handedly keep them afloat (my wordplay game isn't as good as yours) with the daily trips I'd be taking just to be on it.

I think they only have sails... no power. Would make a tough water taxi. Maybe a pontoon with an outboard dressed up like a junk?

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 03:05:41 pm     #  

Cilantro's we are forced to close our doors do to a family emergency
Starting
8/14/2017
Personal please

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 14, 2017 at 05:38:36 pm     #  

JoeyGee you may have missed your opportunity to visit Cilantros, but you still may visit their food truck and possibly they'll offer a joint venture type menu aboard the Sandpiper's water taxi.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 14, 2017 at 06:04:33 pm     #  

Dang it all to heck. Left only with the legend, I guess.

posted by JoeyGee on Aug 14, 2017 at 06:52:57 pm     #  

What is the business in Hensville that has their windows covered with paper?

posted by ckbeats21 on Aug 15, 2017 at 02:26:42 pm     #  

Jorge is still claiming Cilantro's will reopen when he finally gets a liquor license. I'm sure he wishes he would have done that before his disastrous grand opening and even more embarrassing 3 months being open.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:40:20 pm     #  

I haven't been on TT in a few days and boyfriend and I walked to Cilantro last night. The sign that had their hours was removed and doors were locked. If he was going to reopen he should have a sign saying temporarily closed until they get their liquor license.

Their facebook page is showing they are open and their website is still up.

Strange thing is on their webpage they have two postings on August. One is an add for bar and wait staff and the other was advertising a shuttle and deliver (up to 10 mile) service so this must have been a very sudden decision.

This is the second trip we have made there only to find them closed so even if they do reopen I think we're just going to stick to Poco Loco. The worst scenario we have run into at Poco Loco is having to wait a half hour for a table because they were so busy and once in a while slow service but they've always been open during their posted hours, the food has always been great and they always get our orders right.

posted by classylady on Aug 16, 2017 at 01:41:11 pm     #  

I've now heard from two different sources within the county in the past two weeks that significant progress is being made on the Hotel Seagate deal, with one saying that he hopes an announcement can be made "within the next 30 days" (from Tuesday).

posted by Johio83 on Aug 17, 2017 at 12:00:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

The Renaissance roof top bar is to open at 4 tonight. Hope the weather clears up.

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/08/17/Rooftop-bar-at-Renaissance-Toledo-Downtown-Hotel-set-to-open.html

posted by classylady on Aug 17, 2017 at 12:22:22 pm     #  

Johio83 posted at 12:00:02 PM on Aug 17, 2017:

I've now heard from two different sources within the county in the past two weeks that significant progress is being made on the Hotel Seagate deal, with one saying that he hopes an announcement can be made "within the next 30 days" (from Tuesday).

I will be your third source.

posted by upso on Aug 17, 2017 at 01:44:38 pm     #  

Guess we know where the Jail will end up after all.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Aug 17, 2017 at 01:52:14 pm     #   5 people liked this

I didn't just hit +.
I logged in just so I could hit +.

posted by justread on Aug 17, 2017 at 04:50:58 pm     #  

I have Kleptomania. When it gets really bad, I take something for it.

posted by Molsonator on Aug 17, 2017 at 05:51:28 pm     #  

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