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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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Already there will be a 220 seat Chop House restaurant, another Biggby, along with possibly Panera and who knows what else adjacent to Promedica.

Additionally, Berdan will have 4,000-5,000 square feet of commercial space at ground level.

Call me crazy, but only speaking about DT bars and restaurants, it appears the synergy may ultimately work in reverse after the dust settles from the over-hyped Promedica gold rush.

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 08, 2017 at 05:20:22 pm     #  

I know this argument is an endless loop. We need to really start looking at this differently.
While the population of the area has remained stagnant, the traffic DT has increased every year. We are now getting to a point, for many businesses, where we set location aside. Upscale restaurants are the most notable piece of that. When we say saturation, we need to slide some of these into the category of "regionally saturated". That's to be determined. The same would not be said about, say, lunch spots. Those are much more dependent upon locations and people at work.

posted by ahmahler on Feb 08, 2017 at 07:37:59 pm     #   1 person liked this

What are some good restaurants/coffee shops/etc. to hang out in the evenings and work on homework?

posted by ckbeats21 on Feb 14, 2017 at 05:09:51 pm     #  

"Additionally, Berdan will have 4,000-5,000 square feet of commercial space at ground level."

When I looked into that last summer I was told there was not going to be commercial space.

Hmm.

posted by Molsonator on Feb 14, 2017 at 06:11:28 pm     #  

Yup. Going to have a bar/grille. Not sure if it'll be taking the entire space, or just part of it.

posted by Johio83 on Feb 14, 2017 at 09:54:48 pm     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 04:09:51 PM on Feb 14, 2017:

What are some good restaurants/coffee shops/etc. to hang out in the evenings and work on homework?

What specifically are you looking for? Hours? Amenities?

posted by upso on Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51:52 pm     #  

The omnipresent "for rent" sign confirms that Nutrition City has bit the dust and that the endless loop here shall continue.

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 15, 2017 at 11:55:53 am     #  

Saw this at TCP's FB page. 2am seems like a stretch for a restaurant in that area, but I'm looking forward to checking it out.

Poco Loco is Cocina de Carlos' newest location on Adams Street (right next door to Claro Coffee Bar). They will be open until 2am… you can find us there eating street tacos! Be on the lookout for their official opening coming soon. In the meantime here is a little sneak peek.

https://www.facebook.com/toledocitypaper/

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 15, 2017 at 12:02:29 pm     #  

Why in the hell nutrition city ever opened downtown and at that location is beyond me. They are hardly an indicator of the revival (or lack thereof depending on who you ask of downtown)

The only indication they provided is that of stupidity.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Feb 15, 2017 at 12:06:11 pm     #  

LOL

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 15, 2017 at 12:08:37 pm     #  

Oh joy. Restaurant week is upon us. BORING!! What sets "Restaurant week" apart from the other 51 weeks in Toledo? Thats all everyone does in Toledo. Go out to eat, drink and maybe the occasional movie. Overhyped BS.

posted by Adams_Street on Feb 23, 2017 at 01:41:05 pm     #   1 person liked this

Adams_Street posted at 12:41:05 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

Oh joy. Restaurant week is upon us. BORING!! What sets "Restaurant week" apart from the other 51 weeks in Toledo? Thats all everyone does in Toledo. Go out to eat, drink and maybe the occasional movie. Overhyped BS.

Dude, you need a kitten.

posted by ahmahler on Feb 23, 2017 at 01:45:12 pm     #   11 people liked this

What sets "Restaurant week" apart from the other 51 weeks in Toledo?

It supports Leadership Toledo. And Leadership Toledo is one of the things that sets Toledo apart.

Hatred toward a fundraiser that supports leadership development and social awareness for youth and adults alike. In a town that really needs leadership. Pretty dam negative. Is that the Adams Street vibe? Too cool for everything, too hip to help?

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2017 at 01:47:30 pm     #   9 people liked this

ahmahler posted at 12:45:12 PM on Feb 23, 2017:
Adams_Street posted at 12:41:05 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

Oh joy. Restaurant week is upon us. BORING!! What sets "Restaurant week" apart from the other 51 weeks in Toledo? Thats all everyone does in Toledo. Go out to eat, drink and maybe the occasional movie. Overhyped BS.

Dude, you need a kitten.

Think of the kitten.

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2017 at 01:48:14 pm     #   6 people liked this

So.....Table 44 videos patrons drinking at the bar. Hmmmmm. Maybe this is standard practice in the industry and Im sure there are plenty of good reasons why management would want to do this....but REALLY ? This is where we are at? I cant sit at a bar and not be potentially scrutinized and surveilled as I drink?

Good gawd.....could you imagine if all our bar/drinking escapades over the years have been surveilled and subject to review??? Holy blackmail.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Feb 23, 2017 at 02:11:09 pm     #  

justread posted at 12:47:30 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

What sets "Restaurant week" apart from the other 51 weeks in Toledo?

It supports Leadership Toledo. And Leadership Toledo is one of the things that sets Toledo apart.

Hatred toward a fundraiser that supports leadership development and social awareness for youth and adults alike. In a town that really needs leadership. Pretty dam negative. Is that the Adams Street vibe? Too cool for everything, too hip to help?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All of that PLUS- a huge uptick in business towards locally owner restaurants, who ALL report an increase in year round exposure and business, due to the success of this week, each year.

posted by ahmahler on Feb 23, 2017 at 02:13:08 pm     #  

And here I thought Restaurant Week was just an excuse for the Real Housewives of Toledo/Perrysburg/Ottawa Hills to drink Manhattans for a solid week and get their pictures taken while hubby eats a steak.

posted by westsidebob on Feb 23, 2017 at 02:44:12 pm     #   2 people liked this

I'm going to have a taco and wash it down with a Bud Light during restaurant week in Adams_Street honor.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Feb 23, 2017 at 02:52:20 pm     #   2 people liked this

It is very common for bar/restaurants to have video surveillance. It is for many reasons ranging from employee theft, liability, etc. A lot of times they are covert style cameras that you would not recognize.
Just good common sense to have them in this day and age.

posted by Hoops on Feb 23, 2017 at 02:54:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

westsidebob posted at 01:44:12 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

And here I thought Restaurant Week was just an excuse for the Real Housewives of Toledo/Perrysburg/Ottawa Hills to drink Manhattans for a solid week and get their pictures taken while hubby eats a steak.

Well, there is that............

posted by Foodie on Feb 23, 2017 at 02:54:29 pm     #  

Anyone know why there is a newer Ted's Burger sign up downtown?

posted by stooks on Feb 23, 2017 at 03:30:35 pm     #  

Is it the parking sign?

posted by upso on Feb 23, 2017 at 03:52:10 pm     #  

John (died in 2015) and Ted (son) always talked about Ted (great nephew of the original Ted) reopening the shop if things downtown improved. Maybe that's what is happening?

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2017 at 03:55:52 pm     #  

justread posted at 02:55:52 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

John (died in 2015) and Ted (son) always talked about Ted (great nephew of the original Ted) reopening the shop if things downtown improved. Maybe that's what is happening?

This would be fantastic.....

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Feb 23, 2017 at 04:00:19 pm     #  

Hitching a charity to an event always seems to garner support and protect it from any scrutiny. Especially since every charity involving children is 100% pure.

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 23, 2017 at 05:05:52 pm     #   2 people liked this

Whoever the Adams_Street poster is, I wouldn't tie his opinions in with anything the good people on Adams Street feel. They're all extremely pro-Toledo, and many get involved regularly with area charity groups.

posted by Johio83 on Feb 23, 2017 at 05:28:01 pm     #   2 people liked this

6th_Floor posted at 04:05:52 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

Hitching a charity to an event always seems to garner support and protect it from any scrutiny. Especially since every charity involving children is 100% pure.

Do you have some specific criticism of Leadership Toledo? As an ongoing sustaining donor, I have scrutinized them pretty good.

I don't mind your general negativity and absence of any actual contribution, but in regard to LT, unless you have something to bring to light, GFYS.

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2017 at 05:52:28 pm     #   6 people liked this

^
Thanks justread... was just coming to ask the same thing.

posted by wahhutch9 on Feb 23, 2017 at 05:56:52 pm     #  

I don't have any particular criticism of your charity of choice. It's just a tactic used often by various events and I've seen it too many times, so regardless how awesome you think it may be it doesn't mean anything to me.

Obviously your sensitive to something you personally support, so GFYS, and your charity, too.

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 23, 2017 at 06:00:36 pm     #   2 people liked this

6th_Floor posted at 05:00:36 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

I don't have any particular criticism of your charity of choice. It's just a tactic used often by various events and I've seen it too many times, so regardless how awesome you think it may be it doesn't mean anything to me.

Obviously your sensitive to something you personally support, so GFYS, and your charity, too.

When you criticize "charity" in general, you hurt them all. If you have a specific issue or complaint, be specific. Nothing about the Leadership Toledo event should have inspired today's general nonspecific shot at... well... something.

I'm making a $50 donation to Leadership Toledo in your name. You have to live with the fact that you caused something positive. Good luck with that.

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2017 at 06:44:52 pm     #   4 people liked this

Johio83 posted at 04:28:01 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

Whoever the Adams_Street poster is, I wouldn't tie his opinions in with anything the good people on Adams Street feel. They're all extremely pro-Toledo, and many get involved regularly with area charity groups.

I know. That's kind of why I asked. I don't hang out on Adams, (too old) but my impression was that of a pretty live and let live environment.

posted by justread on Feb 23, 2017 at 06:49:04 pm     #  

What's going on with Kengo's. Every night I've gone by there this week the blinds were drawn and the place was dark with a sign saying "closed for service tonight" I don't like Sushi but even when I walk by there around 6 p.m. the place is packed

posted by jamesteroh on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:00:57 pm     #  

Kengo had a family emergency in Japan. They are closed for the week. Sounds like they'll take the opportunity to do some repairs and upgrades.

posted by ahmahler on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:34:22 pm     #  

Blade today with article stating Directions Credit Union is moving there offices from arrowhead and sylvania downtown and occupying floors 14-17 at the Tower on the Maumee (Fiberglass tower). 90 employees initially and up to 135 over time. Plan to be in by early 2018.

Another positive for doentown, but I'm starting to feel bad for arrowhead, my goodness have they lost a lot.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:45:50 pm     #  

Man, more good news for downtown. I am not a fan of Arrowhead in the least (since it basically came into existence as a "why be in Toledo when you could be here?" plot) but I do feel bad for Sylvania. It'll be nice when we finally get that big success story of an out-of-state firm moving here.

posted by Johio83 on Feb 23, 2017 at 11:09:49 pm     #  

(apologies in advance)

"Hatred toward a fundraiser that supports leadership development and social awareness for youth and adults alike. In a town that really needs leadership. Pretty dam negative."

I agree.

http://www.leadershiptoledo.org

But I do have some negativity, however, about their website design. I dislike the light grey text on the white background.

It appears that the website has interesting content that I would like to read. I'm one of the few people left who still loves text. [1]

But I don't understand how this is comfortable reading.

In my opinion, tiny fonts, low-contrast text, and page bloat make text-heavy websites hostile to readers.

And in my opinion, the Leadership Toledo Squarspace theme needs modified to increase the contrast of the text against the white background. A contrast ratio of less than 3:1 is rough.

The light grey text is hard to read, especially on an older monitor and on the phone with the too-small font size and with older eyes. Not everyone has 20/20 vision and brand new computer screens. [2]

I think that only one "simple" modification is needed: change the font color from #a3a3a3 to #222222, assuming that black on white is too harsh. [3]

The site's About page:

Same page but displayed with Safari Reader enabled.

Young web designers need to be aware that their parents read websites too.

If improving a website's readability can save one eyeball, then it's worth it.

Leave no retina strained.


[1]

  • Good writing is arguably the most important piece of a design project. - #
  • Good writing is good design. - #
  • When you respect the reader, the content itself is the only relevant medium. - #
  • ... the most powerful tool on the web is still words. At its heart, web design should be about words. - #
  • The content is the interface. - #
  • Designing for the web is still about words. - #
  • Write well first. Design well second. - #
  • Don’t tell us text is not important. 95% of what is commonly referred to as web design is typography. - #
  • A great web designer knows how to work with text not just as content, he treats “text as a user interface”. - #
  • If a website is difficult to navigate or read, they'll leave. - #
  • There’s no higher priority than readable text. - #
  • Don’t tell us to adjust the font size. Don’t tell us to get glasses. - #
  • When people say "My old tired eyes can't read this" It is because they can't. At 20 years old, your retina receives 100% of the light that hits the eye. At 40 years old, only 50% of the available light enters the retina. - #

[2]

Hacker News comment

I basically think design is like a cancer on the web anymore. You know what works? Craiglist, that's what works. I seriously want to punch a hipster every time I have to use an app [or a website] that used to work and has now been designed to death.

[3]

Typography may not seem like a crucial design element, but it is.

But if the web is relayed through text that’s difficult to read, it curtails that open access by excluding large swaths of people, such as the elderly, the visually impaired, or those retrieving websites through low-quality screens.

So why are designers resorting to lighter and lighter text [and tiny font sizes on phones]?

... when you design in perfect settings, with big, contrast-rich monitors, you blind yourself to users. To arbitrarily throw away contrast based on a fashion that “looks good on my perfect screen in my perfectly lit office” is abdicating designers’ responsibilities to the very people for whom they are designing.

Some useful advice exists in these pages:

Quit fucking around with grey text. Text contrast is not a bad thing. The print on your newspaper is not true black, nor is the text on your screen. These are limitations, not ideals. Stop making it worse.

http://contrastrebellion.com - Low-contrast font color and unreadable texts? To hell with them!

posted by jr on Feb 23, 2017 at 11:55:35 pm     #   2 people liked this

For those using Chrome browser recommend Dark Reader extension. Adjustable for individual sites provides a black background very easy on the old eyeballs.

posted by Mariner on Feb 24, 2017 at 07:58:50 am     #  

For those using Chrome browser recommend Dark Reader extension. Adjustable for individual sites provides a black background very easy on the old eyeballs.

posted by Mariner on Feb 24, 2017 at 07:58:50 am     #  

I would not be happy if I was working in Maumee or Sylvania and had to start working downtown. Maybe it's just me, but I don't like going downtown. I just don't. I know it's not popular to say around here, but I would see that as a major pain and disruption to my life.

Call me a lazy suburbanite or whatever (for the record, I have zero problem walking to my vehicle) but I like the suburbs, they're easy to get around and close to everything I need and want. That's where I want to work.

posted by JoeyGee on Feb 24, 2017 at 09:19:05 am     #  

As someone who has spent the past decade-plus of my professional life traveling the country and spending a week in any given city, I can say without even a remote comparison that Toledo is incredibly easy to navigate and well connected. The amount of time it takes you to get from one extreme of the metro area to another is what most other cities take you just to get to the nearest beltway entrance. For instance, I just google mapped my daily drive when I was in Orlando - 18 minutes from my house to the I-4 entrance. And that was just the first step of any trip I was taking around town.

posted by Johio83 on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:01:55 am     #  

JoeyGee posted at 08:19:05 AM on Feb 24, 2017:

I would not be happy if I was working in Maumee or Sylvania and had to start working downtown. Maybe it's just me, but I don't like going downtown. I just don't. I know it's not popular to say around here, but I would see that as a major pain and disruption to my life.

Call me a lazy suburbanite or whatever (for the record, I have zero problem walking to my vehicle) but I like the suburbs, they're easy to get around and close to everything I need and want. That's where I want to work.

Funny thing about that-

the previous company I worked for moved its offices from maumee (arrowhead area) to downtown a few years ago (I think we moved 70 or 75 people).

I, personally, was thrilled - sure, my commute went from 5 minutes on a bad day to (oh god) 15, and my bike commute went from "not breaking a sweat riding back roads" to 8 miles on river road, buuuuut.... working downtown was a huge positive change for me. More lunch choices, more people getting out and walking around during the day, meeting up with friends and coworkers from other companies, walking to a see the mudhens on an afternoon game, hitting the blarney for happy hour, yadda yadda.

That said, there were people who weren't happy with the change. There was one lady who was convinced that all of the other ladies would be "raped and robbed" between the parking lot and the office every day. (as far as I know, neither of those things ever happened to any coworkers) There was one guy who was pissed off that he'd have to drive his BMW downtown, scared it would get vandalized by all the poor people around or whatever... another guy who thought that panhandlers would attack you if you were white...

Within a year of moving downtown, the GENERAL consensus seemed to be that it was a positive move - our company became more engaged in the city and took an active volunteerism presence with some very cool organizations, we had the mayor and marcy kaptur come speak at our offices on random days, and (here's the cool thing) had a much easier time attracting young talent to the company.

There were SOME disadvantages - in the winter, the company responsible for our parking lot didn't do a great job all the time, and I bit it on the sidewalk more than once (usually in front of other people, of course). There were a couple of major power outages downtown that affected us pretty badly, and.... uh... I'm sure there's some other stuff too. I know that some people who lived west of the old office were looking at 30-45 minute commutes instead of 15-20 and were justifiably not thrilled, but the one lady I can think of that was most angry at first was someone who became a big cheerleader for the move within a year.

I now work for a different company, also downtown, and as long as I live in the area I think I'd really prefer working downtown overall. It just feels better - I love that there's a feeling of community and excitement down here, I love that there's change happening here, and that there's tangible and definite growth.

I guess to each their own and all that, but working downtown is kinda awesome. :)

posted by endcycle on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:05:13 am     #  

Plus, when you work downtown you don't even have to look before you cross the road most of the time.

posted by westsidebob on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:34 am     #  

westsidebob posted at 09:38:34 AM on Feb 24, 2017:

Plus, when you work downtown you don't even have to look before you cross the road most of the time.

Yeah, I'll let you try that first.

posted by endcycle on Feb 24, 2017 at 12:19:28 pm     #  

That's how I rolled for 13 years in downtown up until last summer. I hope you all are right the changes that seem to be making their way to downtown stick this time, but I won't be putting all my eggs in that basket.

posted by westsidebob on Feb 24, 2017 at 12:29:38 pm     #  

Xbuckeyex posted at 09:45:50 PM on Feb 23, 2017:

Blade today with article stating Directions Credit Union is moving there offices from arrowhead and sylvania downtown and occupying floors 14-17 at the Tower on the Maumee (Fiberglass tower). 90 employees initially and up to 135 over time. Plan to be in by early 2018.

Another positive for doentown, but I'm starting to feel bad for arrowhead, my goodness have they lost a lot.

Meh, Maumee has been living high on the hog for about 25 years, mainly on the back of Arrowhead growth. Easy come, easy go. Besides, my guess is they wont have to wait to long to land another sugar daddy.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Feb 24, 2017 at 12:39:55 pm     #  

I wouldn't be as bullish if it wasn't for Promedica. They are so cash rich they will continue to buy and relocate people. Other business have and will follow. I don't care what your personal opinons are on Randy Oostra but he is very PRO Toledo.

Little promedica update from a good friend who works for Laibe and has been on job site for the last year:

Promedica has planned community concerts in the new "park" area for late June. They are really starting to push all the trades to pick up their pace.

Along with the Chop House in the old Key Bank, they have been told that they will be wiring for a new Barry Bagel location on the campus as well.

He had not heard about Panera, only Barry Bagel.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Feb 24, 2017 at 12:42:03 pm     #  

Just tried "Yer Mom's House of Eats" and it is stupid good.
I hope they are able to get the word out... highly recommended.

Doesn't look like they have a website yet but they post their daily menu on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Yer-Moms-House-Of-Eats-1369878306390781/

posted by upso on Mar 01, 2017 at 02:06:46 pm     #  

I've had about 5 different soups at "Yer Mom's" and they have all been outstanding. I'm not a big soup guy, but I now eat soup for lunch 3x per week.

posted by JohnnyMac on Mar 01, 2017 at 03:23:40 pm     #  

Taco Gringo Opens on Cinco!

posted by stooks on Mar 01, 2017 at 04:12:22 pm     #  

stooks posted at 03:12:22 PM on Mar 01, 2017:

Taco Gringo Opens on Cinco!

Good to know! It's been so cool to see them working on the space. If the management at the Ottawa Tavern can figure out what they are doing or (hopefully) sell that place to someone who knows what they are doing... that block is going to really change!

I love that I'll be able to walk from my house to get Tacos!

posted by upso on Mar 01, 2017 at 04:53:35 pm     #  

Oh wait, that's not the Taco Place on Adams. Ignore me, but my comment still stands if you swap out Taco Gringo for Carlos Poco Loco and my post still stands! :) Looks like they are opening soon as well.

posted by upso on Mar 01, 2017 at 04:57:22 pm     #  

Is Taco Gringo opening on Cinco de Mayo or the fifth of this month????

I noticed the Martini and Nuzzi's sign has been replaced with a Taco Gringo sign. I'm looking forward to a place to walk to on weekends when the boyfriend and I have late night munchies

posted by classylady on Mar 01, 2017 at 05:23:39 pm     #  

The Cilantro's sign on FB is photoshopped.

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:04:40 pm     #  

Who?

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:10:21 pm     #  

Taco Gringo is apparently going to call the restaurant Cilantro's at 329 Huron.

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:12:19 pm     #  

https://www.facebook.com/Cilantros-1425246847795189/

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:14:09 pm     #  

That's too bad, I liked the name Taco Gringo.

As for the sign being photoshopped, I don't see anything wrong with that. Posting architectural renderings before buildout is complete is a pretty standard thing to do. Posting a photoshopped sign on our building before it actually exists isn't really any different.

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:23:44 pm     #   1 person liked this

*sign on YOUR building. This wasn't a freudian slip or anything, I have no involvement whatsoever with the business or building.

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:24:45 pm     #  

I was responding to C Lady's post about noticing there being a new sign at 329 Huron. She probably saw the photoshopped FB photo because the Martini and Nuzzi sign still hasn't been removed.

We'll see if their food truck's success transfers to what has been a cursed location for many years. They can't possibly have less success than M & N had there.

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:41:06 pm     #  

I saw the sign on their facebook page. There was no indication it was photo shopped but makes sense.

Seeing higher end establishments like Diva's and M&N couldn't make it, I don't understand how they can make it with their cheap food prices unless the landlord is giving them a hell of a deal on rent.

That seems to be a cursed location and has a lot less traffic than Diva's had with Charter One, the Fifth Third Building and the Spitzer building all a distant memory

posted by classylady on Mar 02, 2017 at 12:49:59 pm     #  

Yeah, I'm not sure I'd call it a cursed location - I think you hit it on the head: very little traffic since everything closed up around it.

Hopefully ProMedica's 2,000 employees by 2018 will mean something will FINALLY be done with the Nicholas and Spitzer buildings. (But with that owner, who knows.) The Huron/Madison intersection has the potential to be the strongest area in downtown, with it's immediately available capacity for a ton of residents. It's just a matter of actually making it happen.

All of that said, the Cilantro's location has the potential to be a gold mine. I'll just hope it's not too long of a timeline for it to work out in their favor.

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 01:00:47 pm     #  

Diva, singular. Not possessive. Cilantros (plural, not possesive? Wait- that spring an apostrophe. Whew, because the plural of cilantro is cilantro, which would certainly tear a hole in the grammar/space/ time/ Toledo continuum).Also-Kroger, Meijer (both singular, not possessive). I don't mean to pick, just a huge pet peeve. Also-soda, not pop...

but I digress....

Yes, certainly cursed, and much more so now that both of the thriving portions of downtown (Uptown & Warehouse District) would appear to be too far away to enjoy any residual nightlife. Unlike, say, the new Cocina de Carlos. This should be interesting.

posted by ahmahler on Mar 02, 2017 at 01:10:19 pm     #  

(They spell it as "Cilantro's" on their FB page)

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 01:16:12 pm     #  

The 's for Diva's was done due to autocorrect that I didn't catch. I am very familiar with Diva and the spelling:)

posted by classylady on Mar 02, 2017 at 01:28:30 pm     #   1 person liked this

How about The Andersons?

posted by justread on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:06:41 pm     #  

How about ellipses with more than three dots?

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:11:05 pm     #   2 people liked this

a Google Search shows other "Taco Gringos" out there perhaps the learned From the prior tenant "Roco Tacos" mistake.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:12:02 pm     #  

6th_Floor posted at 01:11:05 PM on Mar 02, 2017:

How about ellipses with more than three dots?

I mean, i'm over-parenthetical, I also over-ellipse, and sometimes, I lose track of both. That's just my cross to bear. But misplaced possessives? That's practically unforgivable. You ARE allowed to NAME your business with a possessive a la "Deet's BBQ, Cilanto's", etc. You are also allowed to name your business as a plural, a la "The Andersons".... (was that 3 or 4?) ;)

posted by ahmahler on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:22:33 pm     #  

classylady posted at 12:28:30 PM on Mar 02, 2017:

The 's for Diva's was done due to autocorrect that I didn't catch. I am very familiar with Diva and the spelling:)

sorry, just having a little fun at your autocorrect's expense.

posted by ahmahler on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:23:56 pm     #  

I'll admit I often cringe when I hear Kroger's and Meijer's too many times during any particular day, but I won't ever replace pop with soda.

I cannot recall ever hearing a drinking/water fountain being called a bubbler.

http://discovermagazine.com/galleries/2013/june/regional-us-language-dialect

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:35:57 pm     #  

Hearing someone say, "Kroger's" or "Meijer's" has the same effect on my brain as hearing them say, "I seen...". I'm not a grammar expert at all, but I can't handle it.

posted by dell_diva on Mar 02, 2017 at 02:40:38 pm     #   2 people liked this

Ugh, so much "I seen" in Toledo...

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 03:37:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

Changing gears here, anyone know the current state or future situation for the boat docks along Promenade Park and the Steamplant? Have they been in operation pre-ProMedica construction, and any idea if ProMedica has plans to influence them in any way? (With the way ProMedica has been promoting things around town, I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed for their return to prominence a la the 80's/90's)

posted by Johio83 on Mar 02, 2017 at 04:07:19 pm     #  

6th_Floor posted at 11:04:40 AM on Mar 02, 2017:

The Cilantro's sign on FB is photoshopped.

The M & N sign was lit up on saturday night when I was leaving the hockey game.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Mar 02, 2017 at 04:19:42 pm     #  

Is there any update regarding Sandy Spang's coffeehouse opening date? It has been nearly 18 months since she announced her plans and the place still doesn't appear to be near opening. Considering the space previously housed a coffeehouse, the delays appear odd.

Along the "coming soon" theme, it appears that Trader Joe's finally will be opening a Toledo area store.

Many prayers throughout Greater Toledo are being answered.

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 15, 2017 at 09:58:19 pm     #   1 person liked this

Along the "coming soon" theme, it appears that Trader Joe's finally will be opening a Toledo area store.

Um, what?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 15, 2017 at 10:01:36 pm     #  

My wife going beyond her lease mileage limits moving forward won't be an issue.

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 15, 2017 at 10:02:20 pm     #  

Still... What?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 15, 2017 at 10:22:30 pm     #  

Surprisingly in Oregon along Navarre Avenue near Wheeling Street.

posted by 6th_Floor on Mar 15, 2017 at 10:36:06 pm     #   1 person liked this

Nice, way to go Oregon !!

posted by Hoops on Mar 16, 2017 at 08:11:11 am     #  

Seriously? That is very, very antithetical to their expansion strategies. Any insight into how you learned of this or any confirmation from TJ's?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 16, 2017 at 09:01:12 am     #  

Well, that's just interesting.

Trader Joe's coming to Toledo and 6th_floor bringing non- negative news.

okay then. I'll be outside watching for the horsemen of the apocalypse to ride on by.

posted by endcycle on Mar 16, 2017 at 09:06:49 am     #   3 people liked this

I remember Sandy commenting that the overhaul of the shop ended up being quite a bit more extensive than originally planned, but can't remember when she said her new target date was. But in essence, this won't just be a new operator taking over an existing space.

That seems like an odd choice for Trader Joe's, but then again, their 'Ann Arbor' store is actually in Ypsi, so who knows. What kind of info can you provide about this?

posted by Johio83 on Mar 16, 2017 at 09:24:41 am     #  

The Ann Arbor store is totally in Ann Arbor (East Stadium Blvd). It's further from Ypsilanti than the big Whole Foods.

A quick check of all of the TJ locations in Ohio and Mi. There are no locations that are NOT in wealthy areas. Places like Dublin, Kettering, Royal Oak, Bloomfield Hills, Grosse Point, etc. The 2 that are actually in major cities (Cincinnati and Columbus) are in VERY nice parts of town. Are you sure you didn't read Oregon the state instead of the East Side?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 16, 2017 at 09:52:32 am     #   1 person liked this

"Are you sure you didn't read Oregon the state instead of the East Side?"

"... along Navarre Avenue near Wheeling Street."

I suppose that it's possible for a town in the state of Oregon to have an intersection comprised of streets named Navarre and Wheeling.

If the Trader Joe's location is true, that would be fairly close to I-280, which might be important if I-280 is considered a major roadway

But this could all be fake news. I'll wait for BuzzyWuzzy to have the facts.

posted by jr on Mar 16, 2017 at 10:06:39 am     #  

Somebody track down Dave Ball's dad and get the details.

posted by justread on Mar 16, 2017 at 11:01:01 am     #   5 people liked this

Who balled Dave's dad?

posted by Mariner on Mar 16, 2017 at 01:24:06 pm     #   1 person liked this

Potbelly has a banner up saying opening soon. That is going to be nice for those of us who work in the PNC building.

posted by classylady on Mar 21, 2017 at 04:45:58 pm     #  

There was a tilted kilt downtown? Where will Scott Sands tweet from now?

posted by ahmahler on Mar 21, 2017 at 08:41:31 pm     #   1 person liked this

I can't believe Fallen Timbers is still open.

posted by upso on Mar 21, 2017 at 08:47:06 pm     #   2 people liked this

ahmahler posted at 08:41:31 PM on Mar 21, 2017:

There was a tilted kilt downtown? Where will Scott Sands tweet from now?

The answer to that is: "who cares".

posted by Foodie on Mar 22, 2017 at 09:36:25 am     #  

Has anyone been to Poco Loco's on Adams St for the grand opening or soft opening ?? Thinking of going there this week.................

posted by Hoops on Mar 22, 2017 at 09:37:50 am     #  

upso posted at 08:47:06 PM on Mar 21, 2017:

I can't believe Fallen Timbers is still open.

Me either. Never have to worry about finding a parking space at that mall.

posted by Foodie on Mar 22, 2017 at 09:38:13 am     #  

I went to Poco Loco for lunch last week. Had the cuban, and really enjoyed it.

posted by Johio83 on Mar 22, 2017 at 10:08:04 am     #  

Saw an ad for Poco Loco.....charging a cover (for charity) to its grand opening. WiTF does that? Why on earth would you charge a cover when you're wanting to encourage foot traffic and word of mouth?

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Mar 22, 2017 at 10:22:26 am     #  

I think that was a pretty big misstep for Martini & Nuzzi's downtown. Their grand opening was Opening Day, and they charged a cover. As far as I know, it was the only day they charged, but word of mouth suggested that a cover was an everyday thing for them. Definitely wasn't good for business.

posted by Johio83 on Mar 22, 2017 at 10:25:43 am     #  

Bad move for Poco Loco to charge a cover even if the money is going to charity for opening day. Smart thing would be to have a "suggested donation" and in exchange for the donation offer a coupon for a free or half off appetizer on a future visit.

My complaint with M&N's was that I don't believe the money even went to charity and they had a public street closed off and unlike the Blarney's street party on St Patrick's day there were only a few people there.

Poco has been opened a couple weeks. A couple I know went there and said the food was good and service was great. I used to go with them to San Marcos sometimes and there was a waiter we really liked and he works there now and remembered them. They also said the manager was going around checking on people seeing how they liked the food.

posted by classylady on Mar 22, 2017 at 10:37:04 am     #  

Yeah, the food is great at Poco.

Also, I've mentioned it before but if you haven't tried "yer mom's house of eats" across the street from the Library, you're missing out. Some of the best and most unique lunch options available downtown. Prices are affordable and everything I've tried has been packed with flavor.

posted by upso on Mar 22, 2017 at 03:07:11 pm     #  

I'm gonna go ahead and echo upso on the yer mom's house of eats plug. They are ridiculously good.

posted by endcycle on Mar 22, 2017 at 03:16:30 pm     #  

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