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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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Glad to see a public announcement finally made for this! Little by little, the big projects keep coming off the list for downtown.

posted by Johio83 on Oct 07, 2016 at 12:08:26 pm     #  

Anyone have any idea about timing?

posted by ahmahler on Oct 07, 2016 at 12:16:41 pm     #  

No chance they can pull this off. Kick the can down the road....

posted by Molsonator on Oct 07, 2016 at 12:17:54 pm     #  

Whoa, quadruple post! That may be a new record.

More great news for - and bodies occupying space in - downtown. Maybe the top floor will eventually be converted into a luxury penthouse, manhattan style. I'm sure the views are impressive on all of these upper floors.

posted by mixman on Oct 07, 2016 at 12:24:48 pm     #  

They've had funding lined up for quite some time, and have had floor plans laid out since the beginning of the year. Per the Douglas Company, this isn't a "sit and wait" thing, this is a "gear up and go" thing.

posted by Johio83 on Oct 07, 2016 at 12:24:56 pm     #  

I will bet you lunch at your favorite Mexican Restaurant there will not be a single tenant in that building by Christmas 2017. We can bring Madjack along for entertainment.

posted by Molsonator on Oct 07, 2016 at 01:00:07 pm     #   4 people liked this

Per 13ABC-construction begins next week!

Apartments planned for Fiberglas Tower
http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Apartments-planned-for-Fiberglass-Tower-396315961.html

posted by ahmahler on Oct 07, 2016 at 01:02:03 pm     #  

Excellent views from that high.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 07, 2016 at 02:15:50 pm     #  

To that end, I do wish they were putting a restaurant back on the top floor.

posted by Johio83 on Oct 07, 2016 at 06:54:48 pm     #  

I heard that DT Johns, formerly "The Bar" and "Players" finally will open tomorrow.

That location has been tough to be successful, but I believe the new owner has done well with other locations.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 12, 2016 at 09:35:27 pm     #  

What are his other locations? (Sorry if this was referenced elsewhere, didn't see anything in a cursory look)

posted by Johio83 on Oct 12, 2016 at 10:33:50 pm     #  

6th_Floor posted at 10:35:27 PM on Oct 12, 2016:

I heard that DT Johns, formerly "The Bar" and "Players" finally will open tomorrow.

That location has been tough to be successful, but I believe the new owner has done well with other locations.

eeesh. i'd be nervous about opening that place up without a real draw. It's kinda marooned in a way - that'll get better in the next couple of years, but still.

posted by endcycle on Oct 13, 2016 at 07:09:42 am     #  

Why is DT Johns advertising with the slogan out front of something along the lines of "your first neighborhood bar" There's plenty of bars in that area

posted by classylady on Oct 13, 2016 at 08:59:55 am     #  

The diner where the Rayna's used to be looks like it is ready to be open, not sure what the delay is with them opening up.

Plate 21 where Biggby's used to be in the Ohio Building has their windows covered but I peaked in the door one day when they had it propped open and I was at 5/3rd and it looks like she has a long ways to go. The awnings have been removed and they replaced a window last month in the front so they are doing work on it. I don't think she'll be open in time for when Hockey Season starts

posted by classylady on Oct 13, 2016 at 09:02:38 am     #  

John's Korner Bar on Tedrow.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 13, 2016 at 10:05:15 am     #  

Any word from Dave Ball's father about the next planned opening dates for Sandy Spang's coffeehouse and/or Potbelly Subs?

I'm thinking both will be delayed well into 2017.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 13, 2016 at 10:07:06 am     #  

Fowl and Fodder just announced a second location at 614 Adams St, next to Bleak House. For those of you that haven't tried Fowl & Fodder yet, it's quite good. This is another excellent addition to downtown. No details on timeline, the owners of the building are also investors in the new location.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 14, 2016 at 08:25:05 am     #   3 people liked this

Whoa, no way. That's awesome! Is that to the left or the right of Bleak House? it's hard to tell on google maps

posted by upso on Oct 14, 2016 at 09:48:11 am     #  

I think that's where Weekdays restaurant was, right?

I am so excited for this.

posted by kaj on Oct 14, 2016 at 10:09:06 am     #  

I think that's where Weekdays restaurant was, right?

I am so excited for this.

posted by kaj on Oct 14, 2016 at 10:09:15 am     #  

yes, it's in the old weekdays space

posted by ahmahler on Oct 14, 2016 at 10:23:09 am     #   1 person liked this

Awesome

posted by toledolen_ on Oct 14, 2016 at 10:35:37 am     #  

Thanks for the update AM.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 14, 2016 at 10:42:40 am     #  

And there's the Adams Street Cafe going into the old Ranya's space? That and Fowl & Fodder should make that a pretty foodie-friendly little spot

posted by Johio83 on Oct 14, 2016 at 03:50:55 pm     #  

What's up with Veritas? Since the weather was so nice today I left the office a little early and walked over to the Middlegrounds for a nice walk (every time I go there it is busy and it's a nice addition to the downtown early) and thought I would treat myself to a glass of wine before heading home to make dinner and decided to go to Veritas.

I show up and the doors are locked. They are suppose to be open from 4 to 9 today. No sign on the door saying they were closed due to an emergency, etc. This isn't the first time I've gone there during posted operating hours to find the place closed. That's no way to run a business.

That seems to be a cursed location as well. It's been several different bars in the past decade.

posted by classylady on Oct 17, 2016 at 09:42:08 pm     #  

What's up with Veritas? Since the weather was so nice today I left the office a little early and walked over to the Middlegrounds for a nice walk (every time I go there it is busy and it's a nice addition to the downtown early) and thought I would treat myself to a glass of wine before heading home to make dinner and decided to go to Veritas.

I show up and the doors are locked. They are suppose to be open from 4 to 9 today. No sign on the door saying they were closed due to an emergency, etc. This isn't the first time I've gone there during posted operating hours to find the place closed. That's no way to run a business.

That seems to be a cursed location as well. It's been several different bars in the past decade.

posted by classylady on Oct 17, 2016 at 09:42:14 pm     #  

What's up with Veritas? Since the weather was so nice today I left the office a little early and walked over to the Middlegrounds for a nice walk (every time I go there it is busy and it's a nice addition to the downtown early) and thought I would treat myself to a glass of wine before heading home to make dinner and decided to go to Veritas.

I show up and the doors are locked. They are suppose to be open from 4 to 9 today. No sign on the door saying they were closed due to an emergency, etc. This isn't the first time I've gone there during posted operating hours to find the place closed. That's no way to run a business.

That seems to be a cursed location as well. It's been several different bars in the past decade.

posted by classylady on Oct 17, 2016 at 09:42:17 pm     #  

Veritas may have adopted the common practice downtown of closing Mondays.

posted by Adams_Street on Oct 18, 2016 at 11:14:21 am     #  

The only places I know of that are closed on Monday downtown are Pizza Papali's (they are open during the summer on Monday's) and Kengo Sushi.

If Veritas wants to be closed on Monday that is fine but they should post they are closed on their doors and on their website instead of stating they are open from 4 to 9.

Veritas seems to close early a lot if their business is slow or not even open at all. I don't understand how they stay in business, the few times I've been there when they have been open the place was dead.

posted by classylady on Oct 18, 2016 at 03:00:15 pm     #   1 person liked this

I believe they have been closed on Monday's for quite some time. Closing on Monday's is fairly common for most small fine dining restaurant, not just downtown or Toledo. (Please don't infer this stament as saying Veritas is fine dinning)

posted by In_vin_veritas on Oct 18, 2016 at 06:33:06 pm     #  

http://www.veritastoledo.com/#hours

Retail Hours
Monday 4:00 pm – 9:00pm
Tuesday – Thursday 4:00 pm – 10:30pm
Friday & Saturday 4:00pm – 12:00 am.


But it also states on their homepage:

Excuse Our Mess!
We are making changes at Veritas! We are adding a private event room that can seat up to 20 guests for a private meeting or tasting. The room will be ready in the beginning of November.


November of what year? 2015, maybe. At archive.org, the above "Excuse Our Mess" message did not appear in this Oct 20, 2015 snapshot of their homepage, but it did appear in this Nov 19, 2015 snapshot.

I understand that small business owners are too busy to update their websites.

posted by jr on Oct 18, 2016 at 07:29:33 pm     #  

I believe, and maybe someone else can confirm this, Veritas has ended their retail section. I know the owner looks at this site, so perhaps he can comment.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 18, 2016 at 08:37:47 pm     #  

I decided to take advantage of the warm weather a little bit ago and go for a long walk downtown. I walked past Veritas and the hours posted beside their door shows they aren't open on Monday. There were people sitting at one table and a couple people at the bar and I think that's the busiest I've ever seen the place when walking by it.

The new bar on Jefferson around the corner from Veritas is open and the door was open and I didn't see any customers when I walked by. The are on Monroe and Erie that used to be called Tequila Shiela's was closed, not sure if they didn't make it and shuttered already or are closed on Tuesdays. They were open on Friday night when I walked by.

posted by jamesteroh on Oct 18, 2016 at 09:00:45 pm     #  

Pita Pit is now on their winter hours schedule.

Last year they closed at 7 during the week but this year they are closing at 9.

They are still closed on Sundays. I understand them being closed on Sunday if nothing is happening downtown but on Walleye home games or when other events are happening downtown it seems like it would make sense for them to be open the same way the Blarney is on event Sunday's.

My neighbor was told by Pita Pit that next month they are going to start having a $15 minimum for delivery. They already charge a $2 delivery fee downtown plus tip.

I wish Homeslice would deliver or we could get Uber eats downtown.

posted by classylady on Oct 19, 2016 at 09:45:15 am     #  

speaking of Homeslice-went there with a group last night. Not very crowded, but on Tuesdays, they do offer 1/2 price pizza. Great deal for one of the better pizzas in town.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 19, 2016 at 10:20:57 am     #  

Does home slice still have an all you can eat night? I remember a long time ago they used to have a night where you paid a fixed amount and it was all you could eat pizza, can't remember if it was once a week they had it or once a month.

posted by jamesteroh on Oct 19, 2016 at 01:43:10 pm     #  

Both Hensville bars Fleetwoods and 9 are closed Mondays. Registry Bistro and Black Cloister also are closed Mondays. Pizza Papilis is closed Mondays during the Winter months.

posted by Adams_Street on Oct 20, 2016 at 02:51:21 pm     #  

Restaurants being closed on Mondays is a thing. Nation-wide.

Not shitty, chain restaurants.

posted by toledolen_ on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:10:42 am     #  

Lights were on all night in the fiberglas tower. I heard some serious work starts next week.

posted by stooks on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:24:23 am     #  

18 months is what I'm hearing. People were pretty excited because Jimmy Johns made a delivery there earlier this week: the first delivery in 20 years!

posted by Johio83 on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:31:41 am     #  

Development or signficiant changes are ocurring in downtown Toledo and in West Toledo.

And in Soybeanburg.

Oct 20, 2016 Blade story

Levis Commons in Perrysburg is about to be jump-started by new, $100 million developments that include a 105-suite hotel, 67,000 square feet of stores, new tenants for an existing 67,000 retail building, and construction of 424 apartments. When development efforts are finished, there will be about 1,000 jobs created for Levis Commons.

posted by jr on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:37:03 am     #  

toledolen_ posted at 09:10:42 AM on Oct 21, 2016:

Restaurants being closed on Mondays is a thing. Nation-wide.

Not shitty, chain restaurants.

What about shitty, locally-owned restaurants? I can name a few. Including some downtown.

posted by slowsol on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:42:43 am     #  

slowsol posted at 09:42:43 AM on Oct 21, 2016:
toledolen_ posted at 09:10:42 AM on Oct 21, 2016:

Restaurants being closed on Mondays is a thing. Nation-wide.

Not shitty, chain restaurants.

What about shitty, locally-owned restaurants? I can name a few. Including some downtown.

Oh, do tell. Which restaurants downtown would you consider "shitty" and why?

posted by endcycle on Oct 21, 2016 at 09:03:07 am     #  

oh boy

posted by upso on Oct 21, 2016 at 09:20:51 am     #  

Jupmode (silk screening biz, noted for their "you will do better in toledo" tshirts) just opened up their new storefront on Adams street. It's just to the left of Bretz and boy oh boy did they put a lot of work into the space.

You can follow their progress on twitter and instagram. https://twitter.com/jupmode
https://www.instagram.com/jupmode/

Pretty cool! They moved out of one of Sandy Spang's buildings in perrysburg to now call Toledo home.

posted by upso on Oct 21, 2016 at 10:36:43 am     #  

Johio83 posted at 09:31:41 AM on Oct 21, 2016:

18 months is what I'm hearing. People were pretty excited because Jimmy Johns made a delivery there earlier this week: the first delivery in 20 years!

That is not correct, I had jimmy johns delivered several times about 7 years ago while I was working on communications equipment in the penthouse. They met me at the lobby door.

posted by jhop on Oct 21, 2016 at 10:44:19 am     #  

There's a group of people holding a large sign that says "Shame on the Douglas company" outside of the fiberglas tower. They are the general contractors that were hired. Any idea what's going on?

posted by stooks on Oct 21, 2016 at 11:40:30 am     #  

There's a group of people holding a large sign that says "Shame on the Douglas company" outside of the fiberglas tower. They are the general contractors that were hired. Any idea what's going on?

posted by stooks on Oct 21, 2016 at 11:40:33 am     #  

"They moved out of one of Sandy Spang's buildings in perrysburg to now call Toledo home."

elsewhere :

"Honey, We have to move. Why? Oh, those guys on Toledo Talk, it hurts my credibility"


posted by jr on Oct 21, 2016 at 11:41:07 am     #   5 people liked this

Adam St cafe soft launched opened today with a hard opening on Monday. Some friends swung by today and posted VERY positive reviews on Facebook. Menu and food both look great!

posted by upso on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:51:33 pm     #  

Has Claro coffee bar on Adams near OT opened yet? It looked to be very close last week.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 21, 2016 at 02:07:03 pm     #  

Toledostrong posted at 04:27:45 PM on Oct 06, 2016:

Toledo Blade inspections on Monday listed that Burger Bar with no violations. It's amazing how clean you can keep a kitchen when there are no customers.

LOL

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 21, 2016 at 02:13:59 pm     #  

^ There is a location of Burger Bar that's still open, in Rossford. I'm guessing, that's what they were talking about.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 21, 2016 at 02:25:52 pm     #  

6th_Floor posted at 03:07:03 PM on Oct 21, 2016:

Has Claro coffee bar on Adams near OT opened yet? It looked to be very close last week.

they did some sort of soft launch recently when other things were happening on Adam's street ... their instagram hits they are in the process of opening: https://www.instagram.com/clarocoffee/

posted by upso on Oct 21, 2016 at 02:40:18 pm     #  

Despite fully believing it'll be a money-losing business, they did an excellent job designing the space.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 21, 2016 at 03:01:45 pm     #  

ahmahler posted at 03:25:52 PM on Oct 21, 2016:

^ There is a location of Burger Bar that's still open, in Rossford. I'm guessing, that's what they were talking about.

I'm assuming there aren't many customers there as well.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 21, 2016 at 03:06:42 pm     #  

Claro coffee is in the midst of a soft opening and will have normal hours next week 7a-7p. Sounds like they are looking at staying open until 11pm on the weekends.

3 years ago, I had a winemaker staying downtown. He is a coffee freak. His litmus test for a civilized downtown included a NY Times a proper cup of coffee on a Sunday morning. We failed. Every time I hear about a new, promising coffee shop opening up, I'm reminded of what we DIDN'T have, and how slow progress can seem until you witness 4 or 5 really good coffee shops open in 3 years.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 27, 2016 at 12:53:34 pm     #  

It would make more sense for Claro to close at 7 on weekends and then reopen from 11 to 2:30ish for when the uptown bars close. I'd love to see a place downtown that is open for food and coffee to go to after the bars close.

posted by classylady on Oct 27, 2016 at 01:00:58 pm     #  

It would make more sense for Claro to close at 7 on weekends and then reopen from 11 to 2:30ish for when the uptown bars close.

The logic here is must be counterintuitive.

posted by justread on Oct 27, 2016 at 01:21:23 pm     #  

To take off of ahmahler's comment, just to tabulate what has been going on or is currently in progress:

Opened in 2016:
Maddie & Bella
Rustbelt Coffee
Adams Street Cafe
Claro Coffee
Downtown Johnny's
HensVille, et al (Nine, Fleetwoods, etc)

Under Construction:
Plate One
Poco Loco
Fowl & Fodder
Berdan Building (115 units)
Fiberglas Tower (106 units)
Crown Plaza - Renaissance by Marriott
ProMedica HQ, plus Fort Industry Square and another property that I'm not sure is public, but will be a med-tech incubator
Hotel Seagate (not yet public, but there's a good flag attached)
Secor Hotel into a boutique hotel
Barbershop in the works

And the Handlebar bikes, but I wasn't sure how to add them in. And Hull & Associates and Lathrop coming downtown, which are also nice wins.
If I missed any, feel free to throw them out there

posted by Johio83 on Oct 27, 2016 at 01:37:53 pm     #   1 person liked this

.... poco loco?

posted by endcycle on Oct 27, 2016 at 03:33:45 pm     #  

endcycle posted at 04:33:45 PM on Oct 27, 2016:

.... poco loco?

Best Damn Taco Truck in Rhode Island.

http://pocolocotacos.com/

posted by justread on Oct 27, 2016 at 03:53:08 pm     #  

ahmahler posted at 01:53:34 PM on Oct 27, 2016:

Claro coffee is in the midst of a soft opening and will have normal hours next week 7a-7p. Sounds like they are looking at staying open until 11pm on the weekends.

3 years ago, I had a winemaker staying downtown. He is a coffee freak. His litmus test for a civilized downtown included a NY Times a proper cup of coffee on a Sunday morning. We failed. Every time I hear about a new, promising coffee shop opening up, I'm reminded of what we DIDN'T have, and how slow progress can seem until you witness 4 or 5 really good coffee shops open in 3 years.

In regards to Claro, which I welcome to the coffee ecosystem, I have to say I'm surprised it's now our second "mission-based" coffee house in downtown toledo in less than 6 months.

While many here know there was a minor controversy amongst many parties when Rustbelt opened because of it's ties to a church, Claro is in the same boat.

An angry friend just posted some links on facebook which I found interesting. From here: http://pastorkirk.com/files/tag-toledo.html

"First Alliance Church, we want to invite you to be a part of Claro—a mission outpost in UpTown, bringing Light to the Darkness.

This ministry strategy has been used by many Alliance churches both in the United States and abroad, creating a third space for building relationships and making disciples. We studied their best practices and a after many months of research, we have a business plan and identified a location at the corner of Adams and 18th Street. Our next steps are to sign a lease, purchase equipment, hire and train staff, and prepare for the harvest.

Claro represents a risk for First Alliance, but we believe God is leading us to pursue this venture. In Matthew 25, one investor took a risk and was rewarded while the other buried his gold in the ground and was called a worthless servant. Claro is not discipleship, but we believe it is a tool we can use to make disciples while blessing our city. "

super fascinating!

Another facebook note about Claro... as someone who has previously had a career in hospitality I'm very aware of yelp / facebook reviews etc, specifically the trends for what is real vs. what is a scam etc .

Claro has not been open more than a few days and they already have 35 reviews on facebook with all of them but one 5 stars. Some of the reviews coming in before they were open. Thats a HECK of a lot of reviews for a brand new spot.

I wish them and everyone else opening up stuff in the city the best.

posted by upso on Oct 27, 2016 at 09:47:57 pm     #  

Claro has not been open more than a few days and they already have 35 reviews on facebook with all of them but one 5 stars. Some of the reviews coming in before they were open. Thats a HECK of a lot of reviews for a brand new spot.

Andrew, Simon Peter's brother spoke up and said: "Here is a boy with just two reviews on Yelp. This is not enough reviews to open a faith based coffee shop," and Jesus took his Ipad in his hand, and looked up to Heaven. When he looked back down at his Ipad, he shared the reviews with his facebook following. As the reviews were shared, they grew, and before long, all had reviewed and all had been satisfied.
Except one. Number 35.
Judas.

posted by justread on Oct 28, 2016 at 05:28:57 am     #   4 people liked this

well, that's super disappointing. The thing that irks me the most is this... sneaky approach. Is this a bait and switch? Are they going to be playing Sanctus Real? Their hashtag, on their website is #bringlight . I don't want anyone bringing light to me, or my coffee. I like my thoughts like I like my coffee dark and godless (actually only half true, I like a little 2% milk).

posted by ahmahler on Oct 28, 2016 at 05:59:30 am     #  

If darkness can't exist on Adams St., it isn't safe anywhere. :(

posted by justread on Oct 28, 2016 at 06:08:42 am     #   2 people liked this

Poco Loco is opening between Claro and the OT, and I believe is by the Cocina de Carlos people.

posted by Johio83 on Oct 28, 2016 at 06:33:58 am     #  

Oh are they not opening a Cocina de Carlos there? They ran an ad saying so but I certainly welcome a new concept!

posted by upso on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:09:13 am     #  

Shame. These churches are doing it wrong. They shouldn't mess with coffee. They need to open wine bars. They're the experts, after all. They could even call it:

Da Vine

posted by JoeyGee on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:13:54 am     #   1 person liked this

JoeyGee posted at 08:13:54 AM on Oct 28, 2016:

Shame. These churches are doing it wrong. They shouldn't mess with coffee. They need to open wine bars. They're the experts, after all. They could even call it:

Da Vine

That post was a thing of beauty, JoeyGee.

There's also a water into wine joke here somewhere that I can't figure out how to make funny. So there's that too.

posted by endcycle on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:22:58 am     #   1 person liked this

Oct 22, 2016 - Toledo Blade - Black Cloister Brewery to feature hymns with hops

It might not be the first bar music you think of, but hymns will be featured at Black Cloister Brewery at 7 p.m. Sunday, for about an hour.

Black Cloister, at 619 Monroe St., is the first location for the Rev. Patrick Harley’s effort to bring to northwest Ohio a phenomenon that is growing in popularity around the country: Beer and Hymns.

... Rev. Tom Schaeffer, the CEO and president of Black Cloister. The Rev. Schaeffer is also the lead pastor of Threshold Church, a Lutheran congregation that worships at 11 a.m. Sundays at Black Cloister.


I have a feeling these are not the hymns sung by the hash house harriers.

posted by jr on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:25:33 am     #  

If they used Toledo water, they would need to call it whine.

posted by JoeyGee on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:54:14 am     #  

Yeah, I originally heard it was going to be a Cocina de Carlos as well, but the sign they put up says Poco Loco. Entirely possible that's just a "place holder" name until they get an actual sign with Cocina de Carlos, though.

Speaking of this kind of name confusion, are Fowl & Fodder and Maric's on Adams the same place? Because they're both listing 614 Adams as their homes.

posted by Johio83 on Oct 28, 2016 at 08:14:19 am     #  

Is Maric's open?

posted by upso on Oct 28, 2016 at 10:32:01 am     #  

Marie's aka Maric's bit the dust long before any progress beyond their "coming soon" sign occurred.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 28, 2016 at 10:39:52 am     #  

Not that Fricker's DT needs another kick in the teeth after the Hensville construction mess and adjacent parking disappeared, but Dave & Buster's has arrived with 34,000 square feet of new synergy.

posted by 6th_Floor on Oct 28, 2016 at 10:51:22 am     #  

jr posted at 08:25:33 AM on Oct 28, 2016:

Oct 22, 2016 - Toledo Blade - Black Cloister Brewery to feature hymns with hops

It might not be the first bar music you think of, but hymns will be featured at Black Cloister Brewery at 7 p.m. Sunday, for about an hour.

Black Cloister, at 619 Monroe St., is the first location for the Rev. Patrick Harley’s effort to bring to northwest Ohio a phenomenon that is growing in popularity around the country: Beer and Hymns.

... Rev. Tom Schaeffer, the CEO and president of Black Cloister. The Rev. Schaeffer is also the lead pastor of Threshold Church, a Lutheran congregation that worships at 11 a.m. Sundays at Black Cloister.


I have a feeling these are not the hymns sung by the hash house harriers.

Yeah, but in their case Tom was extremely up front about his motivations and affiliations from the beginning. It's also NOT a faith-based business whose primary goal is either a charity we don't know about or converting people into the flock for jesus - Black Cloister is a brewery and brewpub first and foremost, and a damned good one at that. It's a modern take on the monks of Europe whose brewing STILL influences the world of beer.

Also, I'd TOTALLY go to the hymns with hops event, and I'm an atheist. Sounds beautiful.

posted by endcycle on Oct 28, 2016 at 11:15:07 am     #   2 people liked this

"It's also NOT a faith-based business whose primary goal is either a charity we don't know about or converting people into the flock for jesus - Black Cloister is a brewery and brewpub first and foremost ..."

http://www.blackcloister.com/our-brewery.html

“Brew good. Do good.” isn’t just a catchy slogan, it’s the statement of our conviction that we can use our great craft beer for great purposes.

We are dedicated to harnessing our success to help raise money for non­profit groups and worthy causes.

Should we know the names of those non-profits and worthy causes?

Founded by four Lutherans, giving a percentage of our profits back to the Church is also built right into our bylaws.

I don't give a damn if BCBC or any of these businesses donated money to the church of Satan or Santana. If I like their products, I patronize.

People can simply choose not to patronize those businesses that are disagreeable. It's not that hard. I'll never spend a dime with those hensville orgs. No big deal. I'm not missing anything. Many other options exist.

Too bad people didn't give the same colonoscopy treatment to our local hack politicians who are only in charge of squandering our tax money.

posted by jr on Oct 28, 2016 at 12:41:08 pm     #   3 people liked this

Oh, forgot to add another to the list. There will be a very significant residential development in the Warehouse District that should be announced soon. Prominent developer, will be their first project in Ohio. Only their second in the US I believe, as a matter of fact. The sale was completed earlier this month.

posted by Johio83 on Oct 28, 2016 at 01:21:01 pm     #  

you're such a tease

posted by upso on Oct 28, 2016 at 02:00:40 pm     #  

JR-It's not necessarily where the proceeds go, as long as they aren't claiming it as a not-for profit company. It may be splitting hairs, backing Black Cloister, but taking umbrage with the 2 new Joe for Jesus outlets, granted. Seeing Black Cloister in action, and at charity events, I would say they are good people, doing good work, for good causes. I have full respect for what they do with their money, it was their blood sweat and tears they put into it, not the church's. I've never been handed a pamphlet, and never felt that there was any agenda. With Rust Belt and Claro, its the conceit that it's a coffee shop whose agenda is to proselytize, funded by and invested in, by the church, under the guise of saving the world, one cup of coffee at a time.

posted by ahmahler on Oct 28, 2016 at 02:01:23 pm     #   2 people liked this

I had lunch yesterday at the Adams Street Cafe and it was DEEELISH... had a peppered turkey salad. My lunch buddy had the sandwich version and she said it was great too. Next time I need to try their burger.

They did a great job on the interior too.

posted by toledolen_ on Oct 28, 2016 at 03:50:15 pm     #  

Watched the world series game last night downtown and Frickers was packed so we went over to Durty Bird which wasn't the busy but they had a band playing that was awful and they ended up playing a half hour after they were suppose to finish and it was hard to watch the game. Fortunately they finished by the 8th inning and you could hear the TV's and crowd was really into the game. The dish went out for a few minutes due to weather and that sucked.

Something that surprised me was in the 9th inning the bartenders weren't allowing tabs stating they were doing last call the second the game was over which they did. I just walked home at 12:45 but my fried I was with walked over to Fricker's and said that place was packed until they closed. Makes no sense to me that a bar that has people in it during a popular game would want to close and send patrons a half block away to their competition.

posted by classylady on Nov 03, 2016 at 09:10:44 am     #   2 people liked this

A couple of coworkers went to Adam's street cafe and said it was amazing. I am going to check it out today for lunch!

posted by stooks on Nov 03, 2016 at 09:20:59 am     #  

Dave Balls father told a lady in my office last week that Domino's pizza is opening a location downtown. He wouldn't elaborate on the exact location but said they are planning on being open by the end of the year.

posted by classylady on Nov 03, 2016 at 09:50:58 am     #  

Dave Balls

Gets me every time.

posted by slowsol on Nov 03, 2016 at 10:28:04 am     #   8 people liked this

^Nice

Quick comment-Fowl and Fodder is GOOD. Like, really good. I've eaten there at least a dozen times, and I have never been disappointed. They have changed their hours to be open only for Breakfast and Lunch (Central ave location). I'm guessing they didn't do a ton of dinner business.

posted by ahmahler on Dec 05, 2016 at 10:45:54 am     #  

I've yet to try it as their current location is incredibly difficult for me to get to. I suspect I will be at their downtown location ALL THE TIME.

posted by upso on Dec 05, 2016 at 01:57:28 pm     #  

Our second location is majority funded and will be ready to launch in the early months of 2017.

There needs to be betting odds to make money betting against this type of silliness.

posted by 6th_Floor on Dec 05, 2016 at 08:47:18 pm     #  

Speaking about the coming soon syndrome, is there any recent update for Sandy Spang's coffee bar opening? There hasn't been much visible progress there in months.

Despite earlier delays, Potbelly recently seems to be progressing.

Veritas a couple months ago joined the "Closed on Mondays club." It's amazingly still open Tuesday-Saturday.

posted by 6th_Floor on Dec 05, 2016 at 08:58:20 pm     #  

Not the thread for this news but I can't locate the "old" one where it was discussed. Looks like there won't be a Rojo Mexican Bistro at Fallen Timbers after all.

posted by Foodie on Dec 06, 2016 at 08:53:03 am     #  

Fallen Timbers is a ghost town...

posted by SensorG on Dec 06, 2016 at 08:57:11 am     #   1 person liked this

I had heard rumors that the contractor wasn't paid and was in a big dispute with the owner. Sounds like that was probably more than a rumor.

posted by slowsol on Dec 06, 2016 at 11:07:32 am     #  

I asked Harold Ball last week about what was going on with Sandy Spang's coffee shop and he stated her son is doing a lot of the renovations and she has her liquor permit. He thinks they will open by February 1. When I looked in there a couple weeks ago it looked like a new floor was being put in and there is a small stage she built in the corner.

The security guard at PNC told me that Kyoto Ka sushi at Edison Plaza is now open at night.

Security guards downtown seem to be the best sources for information on what is happening downtown

posted by classylady on Dec 06, 2016 at 11:00:20 pm     #  

Harold Balls, assuming a relation to Dave Balls.

posted by hunkytownsausage on Dec 07, 2016 at 08:49:40 am     #  

Daddy Balls

posted by Hoops on Dec 07, 2016 at 09:28:47 am     #   1 person liked this

Harry Balls is Dave Balls dad.

Day guard at the Ohio Building but I haven't seen him this week. Nice guy and loves to talk. So does the old security guard at PNC.

posted by classylady on Dec 07, 2016 at 09:43:16 am     #  

We got a Dave Balls and Harry Balls in the same post. Shut it down, we have a winner.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Dec 07, 2016 at 10:48:33 am     #  

TrilbyGuy posted at 10:48:33 AM on Dec 07, 2016:

We got a Dave Balls and Harry Balls in the same post. Shut it down, we have a winner.

It takes a lot more than a set of Balls to kill this thread.

posted by JoeyGee on Dec 07, 2016 at 11:33:41 am     #   1 person liked this

SensorG posted at 08:57:11 AM on Dec 06, 2016:

Fallen Timbers is a ghost town...

It was a mistake to ever open that place, but it was a very Toledo thing to do.

posted by clt212 on Dec 07, 2016 at 12:25:18 pm     #  

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