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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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Why aren't we using local developers for more of these projects instead of using Michigan Developers?

I think they are doing a great job on the projects but why are we giving tax money that comes from local and Ohio taxpayers to companies in Michigan like Eyde where we know the profits won't be put back in the local community

posted by classylady on Jul 14, 2017 at 12:43:44 pm     #  

For whatever reason, we don't seem to have many, if any, good local developers for these major renovations of old buildings. Plenty can do new construction.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 01:30:37 pm     #  

FYI: the Adams Street Cafe started serving breakfast as of today

posted by upso on Jul 24, 2017 at 07:49:48 am     #  

upso posted at 07:49:48 AM on Jul 24, 2017:

FYI: the Adams Street Cafe started serving breakfast as of today

Menu?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 24, 2017 at 12:38:50 pm     #  

They only posted a glimpse online... best to call or stop in to confirm:

https://www.instagram.com/theadamsstreetcafe/
https://www.facebook.com/theadamsstcafe/

posted by upso on Jul 24, 2017 at 01:06:08 pm     #  

The crew at Cilantro's really doesn't appear to have a clue.

New hours 7/31/17
Monday through Saturday 7am till 8pm
Closed Sunday's
Breakfast all day

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 26, 2017 at 10:39:19 pm     #  

Does Cilantro's have their liquor license yet?

They need to buy an espresso machine and serve coffee drinks and Mexican pastries and they may get a better breakfast crowd. Or open up a kiosk just for breakfast in the lobby of one of the bigger buildings downtown like PNC and just carry a few items and they would probably do more business than on Huron street in the morning.

posted by classylady on Jul 27, 2017 at 12:19:51 pm     #  

classylady posted at 12:19:51 PM on Jul 27, 2017:

Does Cilantro's have their liquor license yet?

They need to buy an espresso machine and serve coffee drinks and Mexican pastries and they may get a better breakfast crowd. Or open up a kiosk just for breakfast in the lobby of one of the bigger buildings downtown like PNC and just carry a few items and they would probably do more business than on Huron street in the morning.

Stopped in for lunch today. Looks like they are getting it next week. Also chorizo and eggs was great and the home made hot sauce had some serious kick.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 29, 2017 at 01:26:22 pm     #  

But even if those programs take some lunchtime business away from downtown restaurants, the economic impact of ProMedica will extend beyond traditional meal hours, said councilman Sandy Spang, who is preparing to open a new coffeehouse on Madison Avenue that will serve late-night cocktails.

“I don’t think the value of ProMedica’s coming downtown is entirely about lunch business,” Ms. Spang said. “It’s more about the fact that there are going to be a lot more folks that are going to be spending time downtown before work and after work, just creating a critical mass of people.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/07/30/Lunch-rush-might-not-be-so-rushed-near-ProMedica-headquarters.html

It's comical that Spang was quoted in the article. She sure is preparing...for a couple years to reopen a space that housed a similar business. However, of course the writer chose to not include that with the story.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 30, 2017 at 10:50:08 pm     #   2 people liked this

“I don’t think the value of ProMedica’s coming downtown is entirely about lunch business,” Ms. Spang said. “It’s more about the fact that there are going to be a lot more folks that are going to be spending time downtown before work and after work, just creating a critical mass of people.”

The critical mass will be at Summit and Monroe as they all try to flee to points south and west at the end of the day. In their cars.

posted by justread on Jul 31, 2017 at 05:50:42 am     #   1 person liked this

Who do I see at the city to get my panhandling permit for Summit and Monroe?

posted by Mariner on Jul 31, 2017 at 07:38:48 am     #  

6th_Floor posted at 10:50:08 PM on Jul 30, 2017:

But even if those programs take some lunchtime business away from downtown restaurants, the economic impact of ProMedica will extend beyond traditional meal hours, said councilman Sandy Spang, who is preparing to open a new coffeehouse on Madison Avenue that will serve late-night cocktails.

“I don’t think the value of ProMedica’s coming downtown is entirely about lunch business,” Ms. Spang said. “It’s more about the fact that there are going to be a lot more folks that are going to be spending time downtown before work and after work, just creating a critical mass of people.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/07/30/Lunch-rush-might-not-be-so-rushed-near-ProMedica-headquarters.html

It's comical that Spang was quoted in the article. She sure is preparing...for a couple years to reopen a space that housed a similar business. However, of course the writer chose to not include that with the story.

This article makes no sense, halfway through a HR rep states most employees will have longer than a half-hour lunch, so doesn't that make this whole article incorrect?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 31, 2017 at 07:44:36 am     #  

Nah. They also have an above ground underground garage. They can have hour long half hour lunches if they want.

posted by justread on Jul 31, 2017 at 08:19:24 am     #  

I saw this picture, and thought it made a pretty powerful statement about how important it is to promote mass transit and bicycles in an urban area. It compares the amount of space an equal number of people occupy on a bus, on bicycles, and in cars.

posted by Johio83 on Jul 31, 2017 at 10:03:29 am     #   1 person liked this

Had dinner last night at the new Brim House restaurant at the Rennisance hotel downtown. They did a series of soft launch dinners to make sure the kitchen was ready to launch so I know the menu we sampled was not 100% solidified...

That said it was REALLY nice! Very pricey (think Chicago pricing not Toledo) but the food was for the most part very rich and absolutely delicious.

posted by upso on Aug 01, 2017 at 09:09:43 am     #  

Boyfriend and I were originally going to dine at home last night in the mood for Mexican last night and decided to give Cilantro's another shot.

We knew what we wanted and I called in a pick up order only to be greeted with a voicemail that said "the person at 567-312-8759 is not available" For God sake they've been open almost three months, they should have a personalized voicemail set up. And there is no excuse for a restaurant not to answer their phone during business hours, especially when you have no customers.

We went on their website to make sure I had the number correct (which I did) and noticed you could order online. They must be expecting a lot more business soon because there was a reservation link. Placed the order online and went to check out and I noticed the amount seemed high and when I looked at the detail there was an online fee to order on their site.

Boyfriend was hoping they had their liquor license and was in the mood for a margarita as was I so we walked down. Place was dead and we were told they would have their liquor license at the end of the week. By then we were so pissed off we walked back home and grabbed the car and went to Poco Loco. Place had a good crowd for a Monday.

Until Cilantro gets a liquor license and their act together we're sticking with Poco Loco and San Marco's. It's too bad because Poco Loco has some good dishes with eggs and I love their street tacos.

posted by classylady on Aug 01, 2017 at 03:58:35 pm     #  

Why is Cilantros closing so early on weekends if they'll have a liquor license? It seems like they change their hours every other week. I went to Poco Loco tonight and they were doing good for a Tuesday night with nothing happening downtown. I tried their sangaria this time and it was really good, made in house and it looked like he added a splash of sprite to it

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 02, 2017 at 12:24:53 am     #  

I see Bleak House will now be closed on Mondays.

posted by classylady on Aug 03, 2017 at 11:27:28 pm     #  

That's probably because they've been killing it Saturday and Sunday with their brunch. They have a very small staff and everyone needs a day or two off...

posted by upso on Aug 04, 2017 at 08:59:07 am     #  

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know they were open on Sunday's. I see they are open until 2, will be nice to have another alternative to Maddie & Bella's on Sundays.

I like that they change their brunch menu every week. The vegan moon pie and chocolate waffles sound tasty. I may have to go both mornings this weekend so I can try both:)

posted by classylady on Aug 04, 2017 at 02:40:13 pm     #  

Bleakhouse could close Mon-Fri and hardly anybody would notice...coffee recently has became a very bloated business DT.

If Sandy Spang (approaching 2 years) ever opens her place it'll be even more crowded.

However, Rustbelt Coffee is doing better than all of them combined. I never would have expected it reading and hearing negative press about their beliefs, but they have built a large following. Good for them to ignore the disgruntled folks here and elsewhere, who often vocalized a boycott of all things related to Rustbelt Coffee.

My wife buys furniture there very often...several thousand dollars spent there this year. During a couple RB shopping visits, their entire inventory was purchased by various interior decorators. I'm pleased she buys refurbished pieces at RB, rather than overpriced, imported, junk at big box retailers.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 05, 2017 at 11:43:37 am     #  

Has Cilantro's obtained a liquor permit or have they again lied to generate business?

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 05, 2017 at 11:45:25 am     #  

Getting excited about a long delayed beaurocratic promise is a crime to which many, opening restaurants, are guilty of.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 05, 2017 at 04:54:14 pm     #  

As of yesterday Cilantro had no liquor license and I was told next week. I'll believe it when I see it. Went to Blarney after finding out they had no liquor license and the place was packed, we were lucky to see two people leaving and grabbed their barstools. I don't remember seeing it that crowded outside of St. Patricks or Mudhens Opening Day.

Went to poco loco tonight. They do a great business. We went to Claro coffee after and were the only two people there. I really like their coffee. Maddie & Bella was doing a great business this morning as was the Farmer's Market

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 05, 2017 at 09:09:25 pm     #  

Didn't get down to the Farmer's Market until about 12:30 yesterday. Still a pretty good crowd shopping away. Downtown was busy. We noticed a lot of people sitting on the patios of many downtown establishments enjoying the early afternoon.
To my knowledge, there weren't any special events so it was nice to see people out and about for no particular reason other than to enjoy the day.

posted by Foodie on Aug 06, 2017 at 04:12:22 am     #  

I was at the farmers market around 11 and they were really crowded. I missed the Wholey Toledough donut truck but he was on vacation.

The Jehovah Witness convention was here this weekend and last but that crowd wouldn't have been at the Farmer's Market. I think a lot of people were just out enjoying the nice weather.

posted by jamesteroh on Aug 06, 2017 at 04:42:12 pm     #  

JW crowd - that explains it. I was wondering why parking was being offered for $10 if there was nothing going on.

posted by Foodie on Aug 07, 2017 at 12:07:43 pm     #  

Foodie posted at 12:07:43 PM on Aug 07, 2017:

JW crowd - that explains it. I was wondering why parking was being offered for $10 if there was nothing going on.

It was only offered to the first 144,000.

posted by justread on Aug 07, 2017 at 12:13:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

Gnats and mouse droppings found on Kobe Bay's latest inspection. Yum.

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Restaurant-Report-Card-72717-Jing-Chuan-436922833.html

posted by dell_diva on Aug 09, 2017 at 01:25:14 pm     #  

I mean, how could they even SEE gnat droppings?

In other news-cilantros has 86'd their breakfast hours, however, now serving breakfast all day (starting at 11).

posted by ahmahler on Aug 10, 2017 at 10:12:05 pm     #  

Cilantro's changes operating hours every week it seems.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 10, 2017 at 10:46:08 pm     #  

I've never been to Cilantros, don't know anything about it and don't even know where it is, but I am completely intrigued by the place. I almost want to pick a random time during the week to go eat there, just to see if I can. For extra fun, I'll ask about their liquor licence.

Within that epic status that Mexican restaurants hold on ToledoTalk, Cilantros is developing their own unique, almost legendary identity.

posted by JoeyGee on Aug 10, 2017 at 11:27:43 pm     #   5 people liked this

Pier 7 is continuing the trend of restaurants enthusiastically providing an opening date and subsequently falling flat on their face with timeliness.

They do have a "Coming soon" sign taped to the door and apparently there will be another event there August 17-20.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 13, 2017 at 09:46:46 pm     #  

6th_Floor posted at 09:46:46 PM on Aug 13, 2017:

Pier 7 is continuing the trend of restaurants enthusiastically providing an opening date and subsequently falling flat on their face with timeliness.

They do have a "Coming soon" sign taped to the door and apparently there will be another event there August 17-20.

I think later this week, qualifies as coming soon. The next event is a soft opening-which is a limited offering opening to work the bugs out. This is pretty typical. I noticed they hosted a couple of preview charity events in July.They Announced June 5 in Blade, opens, less than 3 months later... what am I missing?

posted by ahmahler on Aug 13, 2017 at 11:40:59 pm     #  

I think a soft patio opening is the softest of all openings. :)

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 06:10:26 am     #  

Btw... people clamored for a water taxi. The Sandpiperpeople have added a water taxi. Go use it so we don't lose it.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 10:34:51 am     #  

justread posted at 10:34:51 AM on Aug 14, 2017:

Btw... people clamored for a water taxi. The Sandpiperpeople have added a water taxi. Go use it so we don't lose it.

Any info on this, re: prices, times, etc

posted by ckbeats21 on Aug 14, 2017 at 11:21:59 am     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 11:21:59 AM on Aug 14, 2017:
justread posted at 10:34:51 AM on Aug 14, 2017:

Btw... people clamored for a water taxi. The Sandpiperpeople have added a water taxi. Go use it so we don't lose it.

Any info on this, re: prices, times, etc

None of the fine detail was shared. Just the confirmation of the acquisition yesterday afternoon. But you are welcome to contact them.

This was insider information, which is often early and incomplete.

Thought the clamorers would be happy to hear it nonetheless.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 11:54:19 am     #  

I can't wait to hear the inevitable "THE WATER TAXI WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN ON THURSDAY AND NOW IT IS MONDAY AND OMG DOWNTOWN TOLEDO IS DYING BUT THE CHINESE CHECKBOOKS ARE COMING".

posted by endcycle on Aug 14, 2017 at 12:44:58 pm     #  

endcycle posted at 12:44:58 PM on Aug 14, 2017:

I can't wait to hear the inevitable "THE WATER TAXI WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN ON THURSDAY AND NOW IT IS MONDAY AND OMG DOWNTOWN TOLEDO IS DYING BUT THE CHINESE CHECKBOOKS ARE COMING".

Yeah, but their boats are junk.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 01:27:32 pm     #   2 people liked this

justread, that was fantastic.

Also, seriously, if someone started a water taxi with a junk, I would single-handedly keep them afloat (my wordplay game isn't as good as yours) with the daily trips I'd be taking just to be on it.

posted by Johio83 on Aug 14, 2017 at 01:47:01 pm     #  

....took me entirely too long to get that joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_(ship)

posted by endcycle on Aug 14, 2017 at 02:44:01 pm     #  

Johio83 posted at 01:47:01 PM on Aug 14, 2017:

justread, that was fantastic.

Also, seriously, if someone started a water taxi with a junk, I would single-handedly keep them afloat (my wordplay game isn't as good as yours) with the daily trips I'd be taking just to be on it.

I think they only have sails... no power. Would make a tough water taxi. Maybe a pontoon with an outboard dressed up like a junk?

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 03:05:41 pm     #  

Cilantro's we are forced to close our doors do to a family emergency
Starting
8/14/2017
Personal please

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 14, 2017 at 05:38:36 pm     #  

JoeyGee you may have missed your opportunity to visit Cilantros, but you still may visit their food truck and possibly they'll offer a joint venture type menu aboard the Sandpiper's water taxi.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 14, 2017 at 06:04:33 pm     #  

Dang it all to heck. Left only with the legend, I guess.

posted by JoeyGee on Aug 14, 2017 at 06:52:57 pm     #  

What is the business in Hensville that has their windows covered with paper?

posted by ckbeats21 on Aug 15, 2017 at 02:26:42 pm     #  

Jorge is still claiming Cilantro's will reopen when he finally gets a liquor license. I'm sure he wishes he would have done that before his disastrous grand opening and even more embarrassing 3 months being open.

posted by 6th_Floor on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:40:20 pm     #  

I haven't been on TT in a few days and boyfriend and I walked to Cilantro last night. The sign that had their hours was removed and doors were locked. If he was going to reopen he should have a sign saying temporarily closed until they get their liquor license.

Their facebook page is showing they are open and their website is still up.

Strange thing is on their webpage they have two postings on August. One is an add for bar and wait staff and the other was advertising a shuttle and deliver (up to 10 mile) service so this must have been a very sudden decision.

This is the second trip we have made there only to find them closed so even if they do reopen I think we're just going to stick to Poco Loco. The worst scenario we have run into at Poco Loco is having to wait a half hour for a table because they were so busy and once in a while slow service but they've always been open during their posted hours, the food has always been great and they always get our orders right.

posted by classylady on Aug 16, 2017 at 01:41:11 pm     #  

I've now heard from two different sources within the county in the past two weeks that significant progress is being made on the Hotel Seagate deal, with one saying that he hopes an announcement can be made "within the next 30 days" (from Tuesday).

posted by Johio83 on Aug 17, 2017 at 12:00:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

The Renaissance roof top bar is to open at 4 tonight. Hope the weather clears up.

http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/08/17/Rooftop-bar-at-Renaissance-Toledo-Downtown-Hotel-set-to-open.html

posted by classylady on Aug 17, 2017 at 12:22:22 pm     #  

Johio83 posted at 12:00:02 PM on Aug 17, 2017:

I've now heard from two different sources within the county in the past two weeks that significant progress is being made on the Hotel Seagate deal, with one saying that he hopes an announcement can be made "within the next 30 days" (from Tuesday).

I will be your third source.

posted by upso on Aug 17, 2017 at 01:44:38 pm     #  

Guess we know where the Jail will end up after all.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Aug 17, 2017 at 01:52:14 pm     #   5 people liked this

I didn't just hit +.
I logged in just so I could hit +.

posted by justread on Aug 17, 2017 at 04:50:58 pm     #  

I have Kleptomania. When it gets really bad, I take something for it.

posted by Molsonator on Aug 17, 2017 at 05:51:28 pm     #  

This is what was posted by Jorge on Cilantro's facebook:

The latest on the alcohol licence tic toc tic toc TIME
It's back in Columbus and ready to be released next month.
But the worst of it all is the lump on wife's breast has discharged, this is the family emergency.

Do to the fact y'all are our very loyal loving and caring customers you have the right know but I only wanted to give true facts she's has slowly weakened and finally recover from a Head seizure she had the Sunday before we closed that set the stage for it's finall finally of closing the business she means more to me then any material possession so with this I have closure ....

posted by classylady on Aug 25, 2017 at 10:19:45 am     #  

classylady posted at 10:19:45 AM on Aug 25, 2017:

This is what was posted by Jorge on Cilantro's facebook:

The latest on the alcohol licence tic toc tic toc TIME
It's back in Columbus and ready to be released next month.

But the worst of it all is the lump on wife's breast has discharged, this is the family emergency.

Do to the fact y'all are our very loyal loving and caring customers you have the right know but I only wanted to give true facts she's has slowly weakened and finally recover from a Head seizure she had the Sunday before we closed that set the stage for it's finall finally of closing the business she means more to me then any material possession so with this I have closure ....

He did also mention that they plan to reopen, as soon as license arrives, if his wife is doing ok.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 25, 2017 at 11:15:03 am     #  

I wonder what the holdup with their liquor license is. They've been open for almost four months now.

Plate One has had theirs for a while and still no date on when they are opening.

posted by classylady on Aug 25, 2017 at 11:49:37 am     #  

Checked out liquor controls website you can see it listed as application in waiting with a status of "RED" but I couldn't find a key to what that means. Interesting enough I saw black kite listed as well didn't know they were looking to serve booze.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Aug 25, 2017 at 02:00:07 pm     #  

That is interesting about the Black Kite since they aren't open evenings other than the Art Loop nights. It would make sense for them to try to get a liquor permit and stay open later since there really aren't any nice places that I know of in the OWE that serve alcohol.

One thing I found interesting on the Liquor Control's site is that Ted's hamburger applied for a liquor permit and was rejected a couple times in 2002 and I see they now hold a transferred permit (I can't tell from the liquor control board when it was transferred or from whom). I see the windows are no longer boarded up so maybe he is going to reopen after all these years. I don't know how a liquor permit could help him seeing how tiny that place is unless he wants to serve to go drinks seeing he is in the DORA district

posted by classylady on Aug 25, 2017 at 02:34:24 pm     #  

Liquor Licenses are funny. You really need to have your stuff together to get one. Usually the big hold up, is you can't have one until you get your occupancy permit. I know many restaurants that had to drive to Columbus to pick theirs up, so they could serve alcohol by opening date. If you have them come out and you're not ready, it could delay things. In this case, could be anything.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 25, 2017 at 02:43:34 pm     #  

I also see that Fowl and Fodder and that Market on the Green have pending permits.

Interesting that a place that is only open for breakfast and lunch weekdays wants a liquor permit and that a health care system that has a grocery store that is promoting healthy food choices wants a permit

posted by classylady on Aug 25, 2017 at 02:49:15 pm     #  

It took my about a year to get my license for the family restaurant, and that was with a LOT of help from some city council folks. This stuff moves frustratingly slow.

Market on the Green has been selling beer for a couple of months. I think the new permit is specifically to be able to sell wine. They really need to sell booze if they want the OWE to support them.

As for a breakfast and lunch only spot, as we've seen with Cilantro's it doesn't make sense to dip your toes into dinner hours until you've got adult beverages on hand. I am sure Fowl & Fodder will eventually expand into dinner. Same with Black Kite... booze is the only way to grow what they are doing.

posted by upso on Aug 25, 2017 at 04:17:19 pm     #  

My husband and I have been on a Poco Loco high this summer, always a great meal, and love their Sangria. We were at 5/3 field last weekend and decided to try Nine for dinner. Ugh, was not impressed, wish we would have stuck with our intuition and went somewhere else.

On a side note, I see on Cilantro's Facebook page that they will be opening back up with the liquor license this month. According to their Facebook page, they are also looking for investors for 100k, to invest in what they say is a million dollar business, not sure what that is all about, but I hope they do reopen. I never got a chance to try their street tacos, and I heard they are fantastic, I do love a good taco.

posted by foodie88 on Sep 02, 2017 at 11:00:13 am     #  

foodie88 posted at 11:00:13 AM on Sep 02, 2017:

My husband and I have been on a Poco Loco high this summer, always a great meal, and love their Sangria. We were at 5/3 field last weekend and decided to try Nine for dinner. Ugh, was not impressed, wish we would have stuck with our intuition and went somewhere else.

On a side note, I see on Cilantro's Facebook page that they will be opening back up with the liquor license this month. According to their Facebook page, they are also looking for investors for 100k, to invest in what they say is a million dollar business, not sure what that is all about, but I hope they do reopen. I never got a chance to try their street tacos, and I heard they are fantastic, I do love a good taco.

A million dollar business?!? The math on that is-136 ppl, every day, averaging $20 spent, 365 days/ year. That's to even hit that number in sales. Margin? Lucky to hit 5% gross profits. Close 1 day a week, that number hits 160 ppl/ day, just to hit $1milion in sales. Think of the busiest full service spots in town. That's where you'd need to be to hit that volume. 3 table turns on a Saturday, won't even save your Tuesday.

Reminder-the restaurant business is really hard.

posted by ahmahler on Sep 03, 2017 at 12:41:58 am     #  

I know people who can lose a million a year easily without even hitting ahmahler's 136 number. :)

posted by justread on Sep 03, 2017 at 05:22:12 am     #   1 person liked this

I believe Fowl and Fodder on Central recently expanded hours into evenings...

posted by wahhutch9 on Sep 03, 2017 at 08:58:27 am     #  

The first thing that comes to mind with investing $100,000 with Jorge is "a fool and his money are soon parted." A restaurant that changes their hours weekly and closes three months after opening without notice isn't the type of business I want to sink $100K into. What does he mean by $1,000,000 business? Does he mean that is how much revenue he brings in, how much profit or how much the business is worth?

I hope he gets his liquor license soon and does well and learned from his mistakes from when he was open before.

posted by classylady on Sep 05, 2017 at 10:34:09 am     #  

Sounds like Cilantros' business plan is guided by a Magic 8 Ball.

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 05, 2017 at 10:40:04 am     #   4 people liked this

We are getting ready to REOPEN in September
I'm interested to know your favorite drink please post you favorite
I'm also interested in knowing your favorite food dishes
We are doing a new strategies to satisfy your cravings and favorite drinks please share so we can satisfy

https://www.facebook.com/cilantros329/?ref=br_rs

posted by ahmahler on Sep 05, 2017 at 10:50:15 am     #  

I think the king of all drink "strategies" would be just having a bar in a bar.

posted by justread on Sep 05, 2017 at 11:00:36 am     #   3 people liked this

JoeyGee posted at 10:40:04 AM on Sep 05, 2017:

Sounds like Cilantros' business plan is guided by a Magic 8 Ball.

Outlook not so good.

posted by justread on Sep 05, 2017 at 11:01:52 am     #   1 person liked this

upso posted at 01:44:38 PM on Aug 17, 2017:
Johio83 posted at 12:00:02 PM on Aug 17, 2017:

I've now heard from two different sources within the county in the past two weeks that significant progress is being made on the Hotel Seagate deal, with one saying that he hopes an announcement can be made "within the next 30 days" (from Tuesday).

I will be your third source.

Any updates? I know we're not quite up to the 30 day mark.... buuuut...

posted by endcycle on Sep 06, 2017 at 03:11:57 pm     #  

Labor Day weekend passes and not a peep from Pier 7 except the same "coming soon" sign being taped to the window.

They haven't even bothered to make a FB post since August 19th.

Stating a Spring 2018 grand opening during their initial announcement and then possibly opening sooner, instead of repeating the same stupid mistake most of these places seem to make would have made them appear more organized.

posted by 6th_Floor on Sep 06, 2017 at 05:35:06 pm     #  

classylady posted at 10:34:09 AM on Sep 05, 2017:

The first thing that comes to mind with investing $100,000 with Jorge is "a fool and his money are soon parted." A restaurant that changes their hours weekly and closes three months after opening without notice isn't the type of business I want to sink $100K into. What does he mean by $1,000,000 business? Does he mean that is how much revenue he brings in, how much profit or how much the business is worth?

I hope he gets his liquor license soon and does well and learned from his mistakes from when he was open before.

He also was selling $100 raffle tickets for some classic car a couple months ago. I never saw the results, but it likely was another scam he was attempting to bailout his failing venture @ 329 Huron.

Cilantros likely could manage to lose a million during a miserable multi-year period, but earning a million there clearly is laughable.

His mother should slap some sense into him and advise him to continue with his successful food truck.

posted by 6th_Floor on Sep 06, 2017 at 05:55:38 pm     #  

We went to Poco Loco last night and they have changed their menu a little by adding a few new items but doesn't look like they have increased their prices. Man, their sangaria is good

posted by classylady on Sep 07, 2017 at 03:34:31 pm     #  

Based on the facebook posts on the Cilantro page it appears that Jorge has several enemies and has screwed a few people.

I love his response to the post from his DJ on opening night he didn't pay. He claims he was too busy to pay her that night????

posted by classylady on Sep 07, 2017 at 03:42:24 pm     #   2 people liked this

Any update on the Pythian Castle or Tower on the Maumee?

posted by ckbeats21 on Sep 08, 2017 at 09:07:45 pm     #  

I work in the PNC building across the street from Tower on Maumee and there are contractors parked outside the building every day so they are doing a lot of work on it

posted by classylady on Sep 08, 2017 at 09:45:56 pm     #  

If anyone is diwntiwn on Saturday around lunch time stop at the Paula Briwb shop. There is a Perrysburg chef there whose name I can't temember that has awesome food that is packaged for take out and she also has a lunch special for dine in with a bowl of soup and half a sandwich. Her soups are awesome and she uses local produce from the farmers market and she has really good pot pies.

posted by classylady on Sep 09, 2017 at 01:29:09 pm     #  

classylady posted at 01:29:09 PM on Sep 09, 2017:

If anyone is diwntiwn on Saturday around lunch time stop at the Paula Briwb shop. There is a Perrysburg chef there whose name I can't temember that has awesome food that is packaged for take out and she also has a lunch special for dine in with a bowl of soup and half a sandwich. Her soups are awesome and she uses local produce from the farmers market and she has really good pot pies.

I think you might be talking about Diane of Syd & Diane fame. They are sisters from Perrsyburg who have been around since the early 80's (that I am aware of.) They have run a couple of restaurants, a gourmet food store and know a B&B in P-burg. Mary Alice Powell just had an article about her a couple of weeks ago in The Blade. http://www.toledoblade.com/Mary-Alice-Powell/2017/08/27/lt-div-class-libPageBodyLinebreak-gt-Food-lover-s-en-thu-si-asm-never-goes-stale-lt-div-gt.html

posted by daddyg on Sep 09, 2017 at 02:04:38 pm     #  

+1 on Diane Rogers and Paula Brown. I wish she would open a restaurant downtown. She had some amazing gazpacho earlier this summer. I've always gotten food to go in the past but decided to dine in today. She had a half turkey wrap and bowl of Cauliflower soup special and the pub has some good drinks. The soup was good I bought a container to take home to eat later this week. She's a really nice lady and has a email list and if you are on it she will tell you what she is going to have and a lot of times will take orders for the items. She also had a meatball sandwich today that looked good. iane@sydanddianes.com

posted by jamesteroh on Sep 09, 2017 at 09:16:39 pm     #  

Agreed. I've been eating her food my entire life. It's soooo good.

posted by upso on Sep 10, 2017 at 12:22:51 pm     #  

Checked out the Heights last night (The 12th floor bar inside the Rennaisance Hotel), among several other places. First off-Really incredible space and view. I can see this being a downtown destination. Decent bar program, mediocre beer and wine. Good munchies and service. Only major complaint, it's way too brightly lit-you can't see out the windows very clearly with the full reflection. Outside seating is nice, the barrier around the bar though, is at eye level if you sit in the lounge-y chairs. Pretty minor complaints. This feels like a bar for grown up. It was fairly full at 10:30 last night. Most seats inside and at the bar were occupied. I wonder how many were hotels guests.

I had a couple of colleagues stay in the Renaissance this week. They are Italian and well traveled. They were really surprised by the hotel, felt like it was the type of place you'd find in Europe, not a typical, boring American hotel. They loved it.-Interesting praise.

Also-wife and I were kind of dining around last night-I really can't overstate this-Kengo is the best sushi I've ever had. The quality and attention to detail is unmatched. We also hit Black Cloister (full at 7:30pm) and M Osteria (our first time)-who has, in my opinion, the worst wine list in this city for a supposedly upscale restaurant. Service was meh. Pizza was actually good, with good crust and great fresh tomato sauce.

posted by ahmahler on Sep 14, 2017 at 01:23:12 pm     #  

M'Osteria has a good pizza. The pizza at Black Cloister isn't bad either, I wish they had more menu items than Pizza though.

We went to dinner a couple nights ago to Durty Bird and went to nine last night and both places have raised their prices again. What is up with the St. Clair restaurants raising their prices multiple times a year. It was around $15 BEFORE tip for just a chicken salad sandwich, fries and pop and Nine wasn't much better.

posted by classylady on Sep 14, 2017 at 02:33:57 pm     #  

Tons of people down here in the warehouse district. Awesome to see

posted by ckbeats21 on Sep 15, 2017 at 06:45:16 pm     #  

Half hour wait at Poco Loco at 7:30 tonight. Boyfriend was craving ice cream from the food truck at the festival and we got there around 10 after the concert had ended but they trucks were still up and running with a line with lots of people. Went to the Blarney after and the UT Marching band was out again. Great to see all this activity downtown and good to prove the Naysayers against the Promedica move wrong.

There wouldn't have been all these people post baseball season downtown tonight if it wasn't for promedica.

Wander the warehouse is Sunday and the Blarney and Oliver House Café that are normally closed Sunday's will be open and Maddie and Bella is staying open late as well Sunday.

posted by classylady on Sep 16, 2017 at 12:33:09 am     #  

"Wander the warehouse" is happening right now and the neighborhood is swarming with suburban women!

posted by upso on Sep 16, 2017 at 12:06:46 pm     #  

There was a group of those women at Pita Pit earlier when I had lunch. I originally wanted to eat at Paula Brown but when I got there she was already sold out of everything and was only staying there for people who had advanced orders to pick up.

The Wander the Warehouse event with the condos and buildings open for tour is tomorrow from noon to 4.

posted by jamesteroh on Sep 16, 2017 at 03:02:34 pm     #  

New bar at the Berdan Building opening up next month

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1905739346420062&id=1825194184474579

posted by ckbeats21 on Sep 18, 2017 at 04:50:32 pm     #  

that looks like a really good fit for the neighborhood!

posted by upso on Sep 18, 2017 at 07:12:01 pm     #  

Tincan sounds good. Looks like they aren't open for lunch though but will be nice to have a place nearby to grab a late night bite to eat.

Hopefully they have their liquor license in place and won't be like Cilantro where it's been almost five months and no license. Cilantro's page claims they are opening back up their month. They have less than two weeks.

posted by classylady on Sep 18, 2017 at 11:08:16 pm     #  

since tincan is beer focused, i doubt they will open until they have their booze license in place

posted by upso on Sep 18, 2017 at 11:19:43 pm     #  

I'm not 100% sure where the boundaries change, but I believe Cilantro's and Tin Can are in separate license districts. (Liquor control districts don't necessarily follow the same footprint as neighborhood districts.)

posted by Johio83 on Sep 19, 2017 at 08:04:34 am     #  

The warehouse district is is part of an entertainment district that was given extra permits years back I'm not sure if any of these remain or not though or what the exact bonfires of it are. This is a separate designation then the DORA.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Sep 19, 2017 at 08:25:07 am     #  

Cilantro's is a very unique situation. It's rare, that a restaurant opens up, intending to have a Liquor License, doesn't have one before they open. It's not THAT complicated. It CAN be expensive though. According to the State of OH-Cilantro's applied for their permit on July 3rd, and it is still pending.

In other Liquor news, here are some other folks who have applied for permits-

Black Kite Coffee
Fowl & Fodder Downtown
Tin Can
The Casual Pint -3550 Executive Parkway http://thecasualpint.com/

posted by ahmahler on Sep 19, 2017 at 08:42:31 am     #  

Right, there are a lot of things that don't necessarily correlate. There are the neighborhoods (Central Business District, UpTown, Warehouse District), there are the liquor districts, there are entertainment districts, and now there are the open refreshment areas. None of them follow the same boundary lines.

The city is currently trying to find ways to realign the liquor permit boundaries, because the center of downtown is so thin on available licenses, and availability is based solely on acreage, nothing to do with population, activity, etc.

posted by Johio83 on Sep 19, 2017 at 09:14:14 am     #  

So Jorge didn't even apply for his liquor permit until July 3 but opened up on May 5????? I was under the impression a building owner could transfer the liquor permit and Martini & Nuzzi's had a liquor permit.

Seeing that the best Mexican restaurant in that area is a short walk down Adams street from Cilantro's having a liquor permit is something they should have had in place before opening.

Speaking of Poco Loco they got dinged on a few things by the Blade in their review. Really surprised me, outside of spotty service a couple times, all my experiences there have been great and never had a problem with the food. Wish I could say the same about Cilantro's.

posted by classylady on Sep 19, 2017 at 09:25:10 am     #  

I'm a bit of a lunch regular at Poco Loco (minimum once a week), and completely agree with classylady: we've had a couple instances of excessively slow service / food wait times, but those have been limited to a handful of occasions. Our orders have always been correct, and the food has always been excellent. It has quickly become one of my favorite spots in town.

posted by Johio83 on Sep 19, 2017 at 09:29:56 am     #  

Cilantro's posted that they are planning on reopening October 1 and will have margarita's.

posted by classylady on Sep 20, 2017 at 12:04:50 am     #  

Margarita's what?

posted by justread on Sep 20, 2017 at 06:02:10 am     #   4 people liked this

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