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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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Please share you're market research...

posted by upso on Jun 26, 2016 at 01:53:57 am     #  

Please share another fairy tale of how amazing the business has been with thousands of people walking along Adams with cups of beer since the open container zone started.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jun 26, 2016 at 03:23:25 am     #  

time to invent a crowd estimating app for smart phone.

posted by justread on Jun 26, 2016 at 03:48:15 am     #  

That or turnstiles

posted by justread on Jun 26, 2016 at 03:49:05 am     #  

justread posted at 03:48:15 AM on Jun 26, 2016:

time to invent a crowd estimating app for smart phone.

The Mud Hens are great at estimating crowds, from what I hear ☺

posted by JoeyGee on Jun 26, 2016 at 08:06:54 am     #   2 people liked this

Unfortunately I am out of town and had to miss it but I heard Georgjz's grand opening was very successful last night. His face book page is:
https://www.facebook.com/GeorgjzToledo/

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 26, 2016 at 12:58:41 pm     #  

jamesteroh posted at 12:58:41 PM on Jun 26, 2016:

Unfortunately I am out of town and had to miss it but I heard Georgjz's grand opening was very successful last night. His face book page is:
https://www.facebook.com/GeorgjzToledo/

It must be one of those super secret clubs.

posted by jr on Jun 26, 2016 at 01:21:10 pm     #  

Worked fine for me JR.

posted by JustaSooner on Jun 26, 2016 at 02:20:53 pm     #  

JustaSooner posted at 02:20:53 PM on Jun 26, 2016:

Worked fine for me JR.

Interesting. I tried to open that Facebook page in the following Web browsers:

  • Chrome
  • Firefox
  • Opera
  • Opera Developer
  • Min
  • GNU IceCat
  • Tor
  • Safari

And each time, I received the same no-dice "error" message.

Hold it. The error message also states:

... the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in.

That page only displays if logged into Facebook.

Gladly, I'm not part of that audience. It may be time to update the Groucho Marx quote.

"I donít care to read any Facebook page that will have me as a member of its audience."


Elsewhere in the world:

"Daddy, do you think that someday smoking will be banned from bars and restaurants?"

"Definitely, son. Smoking is a dangerous, disgusting activity. Only troglodytes smoke."

"Daddy, do you think that someday new small businesses will launch without a public presence on the open web?"

"Son, stay away from my mushrooms."


I'm concerned about the fake Indian, shedding a tear.

posted by jr on Jun 26, 2016 at 02:50:25 pm     #  

I just did a Facebook search for Georgiz and it came right up. Maybe you can't access it unless you are logged in

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 26, 2016 at 03:24:47 pm     #  

Yeah, that's the joke. Jr doesn't want to have to use Facebook! :)

I'm happy they are open. Looking forward to checking out the menu.

posted by upso on Jun 26, 2016 at 03:59:47 pm     #  

Hey, I logged into Facebook, using the Links browser, and the page displayed just fine. Thanks for the help.

But I think that my web experience is lacking. Do I needs me the Facebook apps? How do I gets the Facebook apps?

posted by jr on Jun 26, 2016 at 05:05:21 pm     #  

Niiiiice. Haven't used links in a while.

posted by endcycle on Jun 26, 2016 at 05:23:51 pm     #  

Is the Proof Bakery still around? (I think that was the name.) Used to see them at the Farmers Market. Their breads were a bit pricey, but definitely unique and worth the occasional splurge. All I can find via a google search is stuff from two years ago.

Thanks in advance for any info.

posted by Bandito on Jun 26, 2016 at 07:15:50 pm     #  

http://www.toledoblade.com/news/2016/06/28/Downtown-Toledo-s-Secor-Building-awarded-Ohio-Historic-Preservation-tax-credits.html

Wonder if this will affect the Hotel talks happening with the fiberglass town? Regardless, another positive for downtown.

posted by upso on Jun 28, 2016 at 02:54:37 pm     #   1 person liked this

That's great news. At last downtown is getting a hotel in an old renovated building - and one that used to be a famous hotel nonetheless. Bringing stately hotels back to life is a staple in the renaissance of city centers across the country. The secor building is a grand old gem - I'm glad it's still there. Sitting between the major entertainment venues, it's an excellent location. It will offer more lodging options in an area that could surely use them. This is where visitors will want to stay. Another win for downtown and the region.

posted by mixman on Jun 28, 2016 at 06:13:05 pm     #  

It's also worth noting that this building was designed to be a hotel at some point, and has a history as such. The building itself is in, seemingly l, really good shape. It's a massive job, to renovate, but, it's easy to imagine. Very exciting

posted by ahmahler on Jun 28, 2016 at 06:42:03 pm     #  

Agreed.

posted by upso on Jun 28, 2016 at 09:21:52 pm     #  

Interesting. Surprised there isn't more discussion, may deserve its own thread? I know I rarely check this thread as it seems to be the same back and forth banter.

Anyways looks like we went from no real hotel options to 2 and possibly 3 in the last 6 months. Not sure the demand is that high but I LOVE this building and hope it's done right.

When I travel to older cities that still have character I always look for the hotels in beutuful historical buildings. Just something grand about them.

I won't get my hopes up until construction starts as this building has been a disappointment for far too long.

Fingers crossed.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 29, 2016 at 08:11:39 am     #  

One thing Toledo has lacked (for my lifetime, anyway) that you find in any other city is that great hotel restaurant. Go to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, anywhere, and some of the best restaurants you'll find in their downtown are nestled in the first floor of an upscale hotel. It won't mean as much to us, but it'll certainly influence our perception on travelers visiting our city to have something like Registry Bistro right in their hotel.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 08:57:06 am     #  

Johio83-

I know you are connected too some of the downtown happenings. Do you believe this will happen? Obviously considerable work was done to apply for the tax credit, which leads me to believe it will happen. But as I mentioned this building just hasn't seemed to catch traction.

Any insight beyond the blade article? TIA

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 29, 2016 at 09:38:42 am     #  

We've actually gone through this process unsuccessfully before (ours was about 1/10th this scale). One catch to this is that you have to have completed your work within five years, or the credits are "recaptured," ie, you lose out on them. That would be my only real concern for them here, as this is a pretty massive project.

It's also a bit of a pain that the reward is in the form of a tax credit, instead of a grant. In other words, you get the help after the project is completed, as opposed to being given help to get it off the ground. The latter would allow developers to lower the amount that they're financing, meaning less interest they have to pay to their lending banks over the course of their loans, sort of the way that a bigger down payment on a car means less you end up paying when it's all said and done.

As far as this project goes, I don't know much about the inner workings of it, other than it being Jim Zaleski and an architecture firm out of Akron. I can say that in order to get through the process, you have to show proof of financing, including commitment letters from all lenders, so it's not like someone can just throw an idea against the wall and hope it sticks.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 10:02:49 am     #  

Quite honestly, I would think this has a very good chance of going through. With the Marriott brand going in next to One Seagate, this would be prime location for a Hilton brand. Hilton doesn't have anything near downtown and quite honestly, they need one down there. I would really hope for a DoubleTree as we don't have that brand in town. I agree with a good restaurant in the first floor. Be it a Registry Bistro or a Ruth's Chris or whatever, this could be yet another big win for downtown. At least I can hope it will be...

posted by avinsurer on Jun 29, 2016 at 10:14:57 am     #   1 person liked this

what's the over-under on when 6th_floor will declare that project DOA?

posted by endcycle on Jun 29, 2016 at 10:21:22 am     #   1 person liked this

avinsurer posted at 10:14:57 AM on Jun 29, 2016:

Quite honestly, I would think this has a very good chance of going through. With the Marriott brand going in next to One Seagate, this would be prime location for a Hilton brand. Hilton doesn't have anything near downtown and quite honestly, they need one down there. I would really hope for a DoubleTree as we don't have that brand in town. I agree with a good restaurant in the first floor. Be it a Registry Bistro or a Ruth's Chris or whatever, this could be yet another big win for downtown. At least I can hope it will be...

I saw that they mentioned interest from Hilton. That would be big, unlikely imo, but like you said - lets hope.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 29, 2016 at 10:35:17 am     #  

Any idea how many rooms that building could have? I love this for move for Registry. They already put on some of the most gorgeous weddings in the city, and the layout of the ground floor is very conducive to multiple outlets. I'm seeing more and more hotels outsourcing their food service to Chefs/ restaurateurs.

Another positive is the parking garage attached with covered walkway. Exciting stuff.

posted by ahmahler on Jun 29, 2016 at 01:13:14 pm     #  

From the state's announcement, "After rehabilitation, the Hotel Secor property will again serve downtown Toledo as a high-quality, full-service hotel with 144 guest rooms."

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 01:27:50 pm     #  

how do we even know it will be a chain? It could be some local guy making a run at rehabbing it and attempting to run a hotel.....which will likely end in a failure.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Jun 29, 2016 at 02:49:32 pm     #  

For this amount of money, I would be highly suspect that banks would commit this kind of lending to a guy who was planning to figure it out as he goes. I'd be shocked if he hasn't been in contact with a flag for this, to set the banks at ease.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 02:51:42 pm     #  

I like Jim Zaleski and have a lot of respect for his vision and experience and appreciation for his personal investment way before it was cool to be downtown.

posted by justread on Jun 29, 2016 at 03:03:12 pm     #  

Interestingly, from posts on Facebook it looks like he hasn't told many of his current tenants yet. People questioning wether or not they need to find a new space to work out of.

posted by upso on Jun 29, 2016 at 04:03:17 pm     #  

It's a very competitive process, with only about 1/3rd of applicants being approved. Doesn't really make sense to tell your tenants they won't have a place to stay if you have no idea it'll happen or not.

Also, they announced a couple months ago that they were entering into this process, so the writing was on the wall that they were at least pursuing it.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 04:15:02 pm     #  

upso posted at 04:03:17 PM on Jun 29, 2016:

Interestingly, from posts on Facebook it looks like he hasn't told many of his current tenants yet. People questioning wether or not they need to find a new space to work out of.

When I was his tenant, we didn't have Facebook, so when we had questions or wanted to talk with him, we called his cell phone.

You just dialed the number and he said "hello, this is Jim." It was like magic. But again, that was long before Facebook.

posted by justread on Jun 29, 2016 at 04:21:48 pm     #   3 people liked this

Johio83 posted at 10:02:49 AM on Jun 29, 2016:

We've actually gone through this process unsuccessfully before (ours was about 1/10th this scale). One catch to this is that you have to have completed your work within five years, or the credits are "recaptured," ie, you lose out on them. That would be my only real concern for them here, as this is a pretty massive project.

It's also a bit of a pain that the reward is in the form of a tax credit, instead of a grant. In other words, you get the help after the project is completed, as opposed to being given help to get it off the ground. The latter would allow developers to lower the amount that they're financing, meaning less interest they have to pay to their lending banks over the course of their loans, sort of the way that a bigger down payment on a car means less you end up paying when it's all said and done.

As far as this project goes, I don't know much about the inner workings of it, other than it being Jim Zaleski and an architecture firm out of Akron. I can say that in order to get through the process, you have to show proof of financing, including commitment letters from all lenders, so it's not like someone can just throw an idea against the wall and hope it sticks.

A bit of clarification on this. Most people (nearly all) do not actually take the tax credit on their business taxes. The credits are syndicated and sold to businesses that have heavy tax burdens. The money from the sale is used to finance the project for construction. The syndicator tpyically funds the project and takes the risk that they will be able to sell the credits. You do not get a dollar for dollar return on the credits. I.E. you may get .95 on the dollar for the credits and the syndicator keeps the .05.

posted by slowsol on Jun 29, 2016 at 05:00:57 pm     #  

Interesting. Always a way around.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 29, 2016 at 05:06:43 pm     #  

Most of that is correct, but the 95 cents on the dollar is pretty far off. For these credits, you're looking in the 70-80% range. Either the bank who is lending will buy them at that discount, or you can take it up front as a tax refund, which is at that point itself subject to taxation (since it has then become income).

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 05:13:05 pm     #  

Johio83 posted at 05:13:05 PM on Jun 29, 2016:

Most of that is correct, but the 95 cents on the dollar is pretty far off. For these credits, you're looking in the 70-80% range. Either the bank who is lending will buy them at that discount, or you can take it up front as a tax refund, which is at that point itself subject to taxation (since it has then become income).

I see in earlier posts you said you've submitted an application in the past, so I assume you are basing it off that. That may have been true when you submitted.

These credits are typically in the .90-.98 range in current the current market.

I'v been a part of at least 10 applications in the past 8 years. If your credits are that low, you are getting screwed by your syndicator.

posted by slowsol on Jun 29, 2016 at 06:25:24 pm     #  

Too many currents!

posted by slowsol on Jun 29, 2016 at 06:27:20 pm     #  

What's your experience with it? The Mud Hens didn't even get theirs in the 90s range, and they get paid by a bank to display their name.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2016 at 09:50:24 pm     #  

so, downtown needs a high end hotel? Since when?

Van Winkle! How was your nap?

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2016 at 05:49:28 am     #   4 people liked this

At the Maritime Academy, the top floor is actually hotel space for visiting Coast Guard and Naval officers. I found it unusual that they would have hotel space at a school, and when I asked about it, I was told that they didn't feel the current downtown hotels were up to par. In a similar vein, it's why the Toledo Club remodeled their overnight accommodations.

I guess it's time for a nice hotel!

posted by Anniecski on Jun 30, 2016 at 11:10:47 am     #  

Just in case you have not seen it the Marriott on Summit is going to be very nice:

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/tolgp-renaissance-toledo-downtown-hotel/

posted by glasscityguy on Jun 30, 2016 at 11:14:40 am     #   1 person liked this

Wow! I'm so glad it will officially be a Renaissance! (When they announced the renovations, they stated that it was their hope to get the designation, but hadn't been confirmed yet.)

"with sweeping views of the Maumee River from the rooftop bar on the 12th floor"
^^ very excited for that!

posted by Johio83 on Jun 30, 2016 at 11:25:00 am     #  

That being said I am skeptical Hilton or any other big chain would want to be connected to another nice hotel downtown until the occupancy rates go up.

posted by glasscityguy on Jun 30, 2016 at 11:42:55 am     #  

Those pics look great. Judging by the yelp reviews, a makeover is exactly what that hotel needs. With all the other stuff happening, it's good timing, too.

posted by mixman on Jun 30, 2016 at 12:54:07 pm     #  

I'm surprised Marriott is taking back that hotel seeing they ditched it a while back from their Portfolio. I'm glad to see they are are restoring it. I remember when it was one of Toledo's nicest, if not nicest, hotels at the time in the 80s when it opened as a Sofotel. It's a great location.

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 30, 2016 at 04:55:54 pm     #  

One thing I don't think a lot outside of the travel industry understand...it's not that the chains ditch a certain hotel, most of the time, the hotel owners (not the chain) do not feel like updating their hotels to the chain's standards. Ask the French Quarter right now. Holiday Inn came in and said upgrade or we will terminate our agreement. Last I heard, they were going to terminate it. I'm not sure Downtown's occupancy rate is an accurate measure of what it really could be with the lack of a major chain/brand down there. With Marriott coming in, I will bet a Hilton brand isn't too far behind. IMO, they wouldn't let one brand have all of the market share in downtown.

posted by avinsurer on Jun 30, 2016 at 05:10:45 pm     #  

That's a good point, about occupancy rates. Business travelers go where they get rewards. If it isn't a Hilton Honors, Marriott Rewards, or whatever IHG's is called, you aren't even considering it. Having it flagged by a major operator is huge.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 30, 2016 at 05:39:46 pm     #  

WOW, the renderings for the riverfront hotel look way better than expected! Awesome.

posted by upso on Jun 30, 2016 at 06:37:49 pm     #  

Anniecski, I didn't know the Maritime Academy was still in business. I thought they moved their operations to Florida. I seem to remember the building was built only a decade or so ago, and then after a few years they closed up. Is this the place that is now a charter high school?

posted by viola on Jul 01, 2016 at 09:12:02 am     #  

Viola, they're still open, and doing well, AFAIK. I'm not sure how high their enrollment is, but I toured it a couple of years ago (was thinking about it for my son), and it's gorgeous.

http://www.maritimeacademy.us/

posted by Anniecski on Jul 01, 2016 at 09:35:25 am     #  

TCP reported that Potbelly Subs/Sandwiches isn't going to open until at least October.

They didn't specify if 2016, 2017, or beyond...I believe when they first announced it was going to be close to opening day, then it was Memorial Day, July, and now October.

It will be shocking if they open during 2016.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 02, 2016 at 12:10:32 am     #  

It also appears that a business named "Marie's on Adams" will open next to Bleakhouse.

"Soon" currently is the target date.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 02, 2016 at 12:13:18 am     #  

The ice cream / coffee house near Pythian Castle finally is showing a lot of progress.

The amount of coffee competition DT is beyond saturation, but that is definitely positive for consumers.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 02, 2016 at 12:17:32 am     #  

Looks like someone is going to make another try at the former "The bar" location as well.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 02, 2016 at 11:48:58 am     #  

Spoke with the owner of Potbelly's on Talmadge earlier this week and he said they are still aiming for this fall.

Adriana's is closing after only six months in operation. I think that location is cursed... http://www.aidrianas.com

posted by upso on Jul 02, 2016 at 06:05:06 pm     #  

upso posted at 06:05:06 PM on Jul 02, 2016:

Spoke with the owner of Potbelly's on Talmadge earlier this week and he said they are still aiming for this fall.

Adriana's is closing after only six months in operation. I think that location is cursed... http://www.aidrianas.com

Bummer about Adriana's-that location is brutal. I I know that they had some funding fall through at the 11th hour at opening. Made things pretty dicey for their entire tenure.

posted by ahmahler on Jul 02, 2016 at 06:13:42 pm     #  

Rough website. No address on the home page. Text crosses over pictures. 2013 copy write. Never heard of them until today. Sad though. Wish them luck.

posted by Molsonator on Jul 02, 2016 at 07:18:48 pm     #  

FYI new dog bakery and food store opened up in a strip mall across the street from target on Monroe last week. Popped in today and grabbed some treats for the pooch. She loved it! http://www.threedog.com/

posted by upso on Jul 02, 2016 at 07:52:01 pm     #  

upso posted at 07:52:01 PM on Jul 02, 2016:

FYI new dog bakery and food store opened up in a strip mall across the street from target on Monroe last week. Popped in today and grabbed some treats for the pooch. She loved it! http://www.threedog.com/

Three Dog Bakery - we've been spoiling our pooch at the Plymouth, MI location for years - the nearest location until now. From the time he was a pup, we've fed him their "cookies" - which, you can actually buy at Pet Supplies Plus these days.

I was glad to see a local franchise come to town. Look forward to patronizing them.

posted by Foodie on Jul 03, 2016 at 08:05:10 am     #  

Finally made it over the Fresh Thyme Market. Other than the loud Country Music that place is AWESOME. I love the Andersons but this may become our go-to.

posted by upso on Jul 04, 2016 at 03:24:34 pm     #  

Fresh times wine and beer selection will keep me going back to the Anderson's

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 04, 2016 at 06:08:25 pm     #   1 person liked this

Thyme .....darn you auto correct

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 04, 2016 at 06:09:37 pm     #  

We got a pizza from there a couple nights ago, very tasty.

posted by classylady on Jul 04, 2016 at 06:21:02 pm     #  

We got a pizza from there a couple nights ago, very tasty.

posted by classylady on Jul 04, 2016 at 06:21:03 pm     #  

A lot of places are closed downtown. Wonder if the new firework location will get blamed for that. Blarney, Pita Pitt, Madie & Bela (I didn't get there until 4 so perhaps they were open earlier but didn't look like it) all closed and Pizza Papeli's had a sign on the door stating they are closing at 7

posted by classylady on Jul 04, 2016 at 06:30:03 pm     #  

That seems pretty normal for the fourth. We drove around west Toledo today and lots of places were closed.

posted by upso on Jul 04, 2016 at 07:00:59 pm     #  

I had friends visit on the 4th two years ago. I checked beforehand to see who was open for lunch and found very few were.

posted by suz on Jul 04, 2016 at 09:29:04 pm     #  

Makes sense that a lot of places were closed today downtown. Downtown was pretty dead today, but with the fireworks across the river no real reason for people to come downtown today

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 04, 2016 at 11:32:14 pm     #  

We were in Cleveland for the day, and probably 2/3rds of the bars and restaurants downtown were closed, even on East 4th Street and around the stadium. (And there was even a home game) So it's definitely not just a Toledo thing for places to be closed for the 4th of July.

posted by Johio83 on Jul 05, 2016 at 09:15:21 am     #  

for those who haven't tried the "new" original sub shop, they just updated their website. the photos give a good idea of the kind of delicious food they are pumping out. if you work near downtown, I highly recommend. http://www.originalsub.com

posted by upso on Jul 12, 2016 at 12:35:14 pm     #  

DT John's "The Bar" opening has been delayed because of licensing issues from the previous permit holder.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 12, 2016 at 12:42:33 pm     #  

What's it going to be called?

posted by upso on Jul 12, 2016 at 12:44:53 pm     #  

upso posted at 12:35:14 PM on Jul 12, 2016:

for those who haven't tried the "new" original sub shop, they just updated their website. the photos give a good idea of the kind of delicious food they are pumping out. if you work near downtown, I highly recommend. http://www.originalsub.com

Seconded. They are ridiculously good.

posted by endcycle on Jul 12, 2016 at 01:12:02 pm     #  

Their website is enough to make me want to try them. Hats off to whomever designed their site.

posted by Foodie on Jul 12, 2016 at 01:45:16 pm     #  

Mo the owner does all of the social media, takes all of the pics etc. She's great at food porn:

https://twitter.com/originalsubshop
https://www.instagram.com/originalsub/

posted by upso on Jul 12, 2016 at 02:29:17 pm     #   1 person liked this

The Cuban sub and the Reuben they added looks great. I'll have to go there Saturday. I didn't know Original sub even had a website. I wish they were open until 7 during the week and I'd go there more often

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 12, 2016 at 03:33:02 pm     #  

upso posted at 02:29:17 PM on Jul 12, 2016:

Mo the owner does all of the social media, takes all of the pics etc. She's great at food porn:

https://twitter.com/originalsubshop
https://www.instagram.com/originalsub/

Yes, she is indeed.

posted by Foodie on Jul 12, 2016 at 03:40:27 pm     #  

Is this a different owner from a couple of years ago? Not bad, but I wasnt terribly impressed.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Jul 13, 2016 at 09:04:25 am     #  

Yes. New owner.

posted by upso on Jul 13, 2016 at 09:37:15 am     #   1 person liked this

I decided to bike down to Original Sub for lunch and was really impressed. I had planned on getting the Cuban or Reuben but they had a special that was a PB, pickle, potato chip and Provolone Panini that the girl (may have been the owner) said was really good and I tried it. Sounded disgusting but I liked all the ingredients in it and glad I tried it, amazing sandwich. I like how they prepared the Panini as well, instead of it being a pressed enclosed type sandwich the bread wasn't pressed down.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 15, 2016 at 02:01:30 pm     #  

Nice! Yeah, I get the panini every time, no matter what it is, and it is always good. Glad you enjoyed yourself!

posted by upso on Jul 15, 2016 at 02:04:40 pm     #  

Nice! Yeah, I get the panini every time, no matter what it is, and it is always good. Glad you enjoyed yourself!

posted by upso on Jul 15, 2016 at 02:04:41 pm     #  

Does anybody agree that it's unethical for Kobe Bay continuing to sell at Groupon while closed?

I looked last night and Kobe Bay remains closed.

Their custom-made tables really must be special.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 16, 2016 at 07:22:05 pm     #  

100000000% unethical
Link?

posted by upso on Jul 16, 2016 at 07:51:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

The ball park area bars were doing pretty good this afternoon. Perfect outdoor drinking weather.

We noticed at Nine their hours show them closed on Sunday and Monday and I didn't remember them being closed two days a week before. We asked an employee if they were closed tomorrow since it's a game day and he said yes. Strange a bar in Hensville would be closed during a home game. I'm surprised they don't do what the Blarney does and open up for home gay and event Sundays.

posted by classylady on Jul 16, 2016 at 10:29:20 pm     #  

upso posted at 07:51:56 PM on Jul 16, 2016:

100000000% unethical
Link?

I'm not sure how to link from the Groupon app but I did recall seeing the offer awhile back. I just checked on the app (by searching for Kobe Bay) and it came right up. Four different offers, ranging from $16-$60. However, the deal expires tonight at midnight.

posted by dell_diva on Jul 16, 2016 at 11:40:24 pm     #  

Does anybody agree that it's unethical for Kobe Bay continuing to sell at Groupon while closed

In their defense, some of their employees may not have realized they were closed these months.

posted by ahmahler on Jul 16, 2016 at 11:54:38 pm     #  

home gay and event Sundays
That should have been Home Game:)

Kobe Bay is closed????? Is this for renovations or are they permanently closed? I was under the impression they were doing well.

posted by classylady on Jul 17, 2016 at 12:11:56 am     #  

They have been closed for remodeling for months!

posted by upso on Jul 17, 2016 at 03:51:02 am     #   1 person liked this

Report it to Groupon. The groupon purchase will be protected though. I bought a Groupon a few years ago for Al Smith's right before they had that fire that shut them down for a while and the groupon would have expired before then and they refunded it. I also had a Groupon for the Quizino's at the Spitzer and they closed before I could use it and no issues getting a refund.

I would be hesitant to buy a groupon for any place at the docks with their turnover

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 17, 2016 at 11:07:59 am     #  

upso posted at 03:51:02 AM on Jul 17, 2016:

They have been closed for remodeling for months!

Yeah, it makes sense for a restaurant that is located in northern Ohio with outdoor seating along the river to remodel during the warm time of the year.

posted by jr on Jul 17, 2016 at 12:08:25 pm     #  

"... I just checked on the app (by searching for Kobe Bay) and it came right up. Four different offers, ranging from $16-$60."

https://www.groupon.com/deals/kobe-bay

posted by jr on Jul 17, 2016 at 12:13:53 pm     #  

I went to M&B coffee this morning and was impressed at how busy it was at 11:30ish seeing they close at noon. Wish they were open a little later on Sundays, hopefully if they are doing this well every Sunday they will stay open a little later.

I had a cheese/bacon scone that was homemade and was great. I wish they were a little faster and I would stop in on my way to work once in a while for coffee. I know a pour over takes time but they aren't that fast about getting the line to move.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 17, 2016 at 04:39:26 pm     #  

ahmahler posted at 11:54:38 PM on Jul 16, 2016:
Does anybody agree that it's unethical for Kobe Bay continuing to sell at Groupon while closed

In their defense, some of their employees may not have realized they were closed these months.

When Kobe Bay closed in April, they taped a sign at the entrance stating they were remodeling and would be closed until early June.

I've seen Kobe Bay on Groupon the entire time they've closed.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 17, 2016 at 06:36:50 pm     #  

6th-I was joking...

posted by ahmahler on Jul 17, 2016 at 06:39:54 pm     #  

AM is there any confirmation they removed the Christmas tree from the main dining area while remodeling?

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 17, 2016 at 11:59:29 pm     #  

Can you see it from the windows?

posted by justread on Jul 18, 2016 at 08:00:53 am     #   6 people liked this

As for the report about 9 being closed on Game Days, I was there yesterday and they were open even though the posted hours said they are closed Sunday and Monday.

There were allowing people on the roof deck (the viewing area of the ball park was closed to a private event though) and it was my first time up there and it was pretty nice. They were pretty dead compared to how other bars seemed to be doing based on just walking by.

I was craving Pita Pitt and walked down the street to find out they don't stay open late on Sunday's on game days and ended up walking over to Fleetwood's for dinner who was a lot busier than 9.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 18, 2016 at 09:34:54 am     #  

jamesteroh posted at 02:01:30 PM on Jul 15, 2016:

I decided to bike down to Original Sub for lunch and was really impressed. I had planned on getting the Cuban or Reuben but they had a special that was a PB, pickle, potato chip and Provolone Panini that the girl (may have been the owner) said was really good and I tried it. Sounded disgusting but I liked all the ingredients in it and glad I tried it, amazing sandwich. I like how they prepared the Panini as well, instead of it being a pressed enclosed type sandwich the bread wasn't pressed down.

I don't usually read this thread but I was browsing in here the other day and saw this about the OSS (which is now The Moriginal Submaureen Shop, lol) and we went there for lunch today. Met Mo, a sweet happy lady, and had very tasty subs, the Rosemary's Baby Swiss for me and an Italian for him, BIG IMPROVEMENT over the subs we had there in the past! He wants to try the mushroom soup so we will be going back. Thanks, TT!

posted by nana on Jul 18, 2016 at 06:29:37 pm     #  

Ready for San Marcos - Reynolds Rd.? I am. Signs are going up, it should be soon.

posted by decent28 on Jul 22, 2016 at 08:45:04 pm     #  

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