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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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OOO! It's "second guess ticket sales numbers by the Mudhens Evil Conglomerate" season!! Sweeeeeet.

posted by endcycle on Apr 17, 2017 at 08:50:18 am     #   3 people liked this

I hope they aren't going to try to market the old Fiberglas tower as college housing. This was on the Downtown Toledo official facebook page:

Hey The University of Toledo & Bowling Green State University students...come live in the 2nd tallest building in downtown. The former OC Fiberglas Tower is being renovated into the Tower in the Maumee.

Nothing against college students, but if I'm going to be paying four digits a month for rent downtown I don't want to live next door to an apartment with six college students.

Hopefully they will at least limit it to one occupant per bedroom.

posted by classylady on Apr 17, 2017 at 09:48:46 am     #  

Like Foodie said, to me opening day is more about going to the bars and opening day parties than the game. It's great to catch up with other people who live and work downtown and enjoy a Thursday afternoon off from work. It was really nice this year for those who had Good Friday off.

However the ball park was far from packed. The club seats section where our firm has their tickets (I believe all the club seats are season ticket holders) had quite a few empty rows. The suite level concourse was packed but that area is heated and you also need a ticket to either the suite or club level to get up there. Ticket sales and attendance are two different things.

One thing that was irritating is they don't allow readmittance. A couple of my friends were downtown and I wanted to meet them for a few minutes but was told if I left 5/3rd field I couldn't get back in. We left after the third inning to meet them but probably would have come back for the last couple innings and each purchased at least one drink.

I went to a Rocky's game last time I was in Denver and it started to started to rain mid-game and they had to pull the trap out. They allowed people to leave, you just had to get your hand stamped and hold on to your ticket. Why can't the Mudhens do the same?

posted by classylady on Apr 17, 2017 at 09:56:46 am     #   1 person liked this

From the article last week, I don't think their target is necessarily "current" college students. They talked about them being luxury apartments. They had UT/BG students involved in urban planning walk it, and the Eyde Company's representative said something along the lines of them being happy to have some of the students end up as residents "when they can afford it" or something along those lines.

posted by Johio83 on Apr 17, 2017 at 09:59:45 am     #  

If you have much other than positive things to say about Opening Day in Toledo, Im pretty much going to question your opinion on subsequent posts. Id say Opening Day has proven to be, year in and year out (even in crappy weather), the single "best" day in Toledo. It hits the bullseye on the targeted people Toledo is longing to recruit and retain. If anything, I wish the powers that be would turn up the volume on the promotion of this event. I think it could be even bigger and better and I think it could be replicated on certain weekends throughout the summer (albeit on a smaller scale) with some creative events and promotion for the Warehouse District.

And if youre commenting about empty seats.....you havent been paying attention. There are ALWAYS plenty of empty seats on Opening Day. Even in great weather. The game is secondary. Its a huge party in the suites area, and yes, the concourses are packed. And the bars are packed all day and into the night.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Apr 17, 2017 at 10:25:20 am     #   6 people liked this

Opening Day is always great ! The suite area was OVERCROWDED as usual. It is a big party where a baseball game breaks out. Add in the Private parties being thrown outside the stadium and it just grows even larger. We left the stadium, re-entered thru the Roost (take the elevators in NINE), easy to get around the no re-admittance policy.
Every bar we went to downtown was packed and everyone was having a good time..

posted by Hoops on Apr 17, 2017 at 10:43:15 am     #   1 person liked this

Jeez....remember all the great times we all had for Opening Day at the Ned ? Good times good times. (crickets).

hahaha still have to laugh at the naysayers. "Theres' no parking Downtown". "Its too dangerous". "Waste of money".

15 yrs in and that place is still doing quite well and serving its purpose.....and arguably exceeding expectation.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Apr 17, 2017 at 11:52:42 am     #   5 people liked this

Probably the only time I ever agreed with elected officials ignoring the will of the voters.

As you recall, the "we don't want nuttin' to ever change" county majority won the "no" vote to build the field downtown.

I don't think it a stretch to say that 5th 3rd Field was the genesis of everything that has come since.

posted by Foodie on Apr 17, 2017 at 01:25:34 pm     #   4 people liked this

Having 5/3rd field downtown is a definite asset. I love being able to see the fireworks from my home on weekend nights and it's great having places to eat and drink at nearby. Plus it makes sense to have the Toledo Mudhen's downtown. I never understood the old ballpark being in Maumee, the team is the TOLEDO Mudhens not the Maumee Mudhens. And for the MASH fans there is a Tony Packo's that is only a one minute walk away.

And not to mention Hensville. I love what Joe Napoli has done with that, we had out of town friends from Chicago and from Boston during Christmas time and they were amazed at how Hensville looked decorated with all the lights.

posted by classylady on Apr 17, 2017 at 01:48:55 pm     #   1 person liked this

Potbelly's did a soft/trial grand opening at lunch time today. Free food, just asked for a donation to a charity as you exited.

Line was out at the door at 12:30 and they didn't even advertise it. Great addition to downtown.

posted by classylady on Apr 17, 2017 at 01:50:30 pm     #  

So what exactly are you supposed to do for the art loop?

posted by ckbeats21 on Apr 20, 2017 at 11:33:50 am     #  

What do you mean?

posted by upso on Apr 20, 2017 at 11:42:41 am     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 11:33:50 AM on Apr 20, 2017:

So what exactly are you supposed to do for the art loop?

Go to the main library at 5:00PM today with $1.25 and await further instructions. You got this!

posted by justread on Apr 20, 2017 at 12:03:53 pm     #  

5:00 is too early. Go closer to 5:30. You can park there, also.

posted by justread on Apr 20, 2017 at 12:05:07 pm     #  

http://theartscommission.org/artloop

Yep, the first one for 2017 is this evening.

WHAT IS ART LOOP

MUSIC, FOOD, ART & FUN

The Loop is Toledo’s signature monthly arts experience. Explore the downtown creative community through self-guided tours of the art, artists, and spaces that inspire a vibrant Toledo.

The Loop is a program of The Arts Commission, presented in partnership with the artists and participating venues who make it possible.

Art Loop takes place each third Thursday of the month April-December, 5:30-9pm.

HOW TO LOOP

Stops/routes are listed on the map link above.

Buses arrive every 15 to 20 minutes at each stop.

Wristbands are $1.25, include unlimited rides all evening, and may be purchased in cash only on the bus.

There are two bus lines, the Red Line and the Blue Line. Both Red and Blue Lines connect at 3 stops: Toledo School for the Arts, Hensville, and Gathered Glass.

Get off at any stop. Check out the many galleries, shops, restaurants, and attractions near each stop.


Simply hanging out at Gathered Glass is a fun time.

Gathered Glassblowing Studio kicks off their HOT Glass, COLD Beer, COOL music series with GreenAcre Sessions and live glassblowing demos.

Read more at http://theartscommission.org/featuredloop

And check out the map http://theartscommission.org/map

posted by jr on Apr 20, 2017 at 12:15:18 pm     #  

A friend and I signed up for a Gathered Glass Ladies Night last summer. We were the first ones in so we were the first ones to get to make our garden sphere. When we were done, they had to cool in the kiln for 24 hours, so we really were done, we didn't even get to drink our wine! We walked outside, thinking we'd go back to the car and talk and drink, but the ballpark is right across the street, so we went to the game and had a blast! The Hens won 10-1 in like the last 2 innings, beer and peanuts and burgers were good, excellent night!

posted by nana on Apr 20, 2017 at 02:40:34 pm     #  

jr posted at 12:15:18 PM on Apr 20, 2017:

http://theartscommission.org/artloop

Yep, the first one for 2017 is this evening.

WHAT IS ART LOOP

MUSIC, FOOD, ART & FUN

The Loop is Toledo’s signature monthly arts experience. Explore the downtown creative community through self-guided tours of the art, artists, and spaces that inspire a vibrant Toledo.

The Loop is a program of The Arts Commission, presented in partnership with the artists and participating venues who make it possible.

Art Loop takes place each third Thursday of the month April-December, 5:30-9pm.

HOW TO LOOP

Stops/routes are listed on the map link above.

Buses arrive every 15 to 20 minutes at each stop.

Wristbands are $1.25, include unlimited rides all evening, and may be purchased in cash only on the bus.

There are two bus lines, the Red Line and the Blue Line. Both Red and Blue Lines connect at 3 stops: Toledo School for the Arts, Hensville, and Gathered Glass.

Get off at any stop. Check out the many galleries, shops, restaurants, and attractions near each stop.


Simply hanging out at Gathered Glass is a fun time.

Gathered Glassblowing Studio kicks off their HOT Glass, COLD Beer, COOL music series with GreenAcre Sessions and live glassblowing demos.

Read more at http://theartscommission.org/featuredloop

And check out the map http://theartscommission.org/map

It says "self-guided", does that mean I have to take the bus? I won't get off work early enough to make it.

posted by ckbeats21 on Apr 20, 2017 at 02:45:31 pm     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 02:45:31 PM on Apr 20, 2017:
jr posted at 12:15:18 PM on Apr 20, 2017:

http://theartscommission.org/artloop

Yep, the first one for 2017 is this evening.

WHAT IS ART LOOP

MUSIC, FOOD, ART & FUN

The Loop is Toledo’s signature monthly arts experience. Explore the downtown creative community through self-guided tours of the art, artists, and spaces that inspire a vibrant Toledo.

The Loop is a program of The Arts Commission, presented in partnership with the artists and participating venues who make it possible.

Art Loop takes place each third Thursday of the month April-December, 5:30-9pm.

HOW TO LOOP

Stops/routes are listed on the map link above.

Buses arrive every 15 to 20 minutes at each stop.

Wristbands are $1.25, include unlimited rides all evening, and may be purchased in cash only on the bus.

There are two bus lines, the Red Line and the Blue Line. Both Red and Blue Lines connect at 3 stops: Toledo School for the Arts, Hensville, and Gathered Glass.

Get off at any stop. Check out the many galleries, shops, restaurants, and attractions near each stop.


Simply hanging out at Gathered Glass is a fun time.

Gathered Glassblowing Studio kicks off their HOT Glass, COLD Beer, COOL music series with GreenAcre Sessions and live glassblowing demos.

Read more at http://theartscommission.org/featuredloop

And check out the map http://theartscommission.org/map

It says "self-guided", does that mean I have to take the bus? I won't get off work early enough to make it.

There are multiple buses, all leaving from the library and returning. Art Loop people will be there. Arrive when you can. The library is the hub. All will be revealed at the library.

Buses arrive every 15 to 20 minutes at each stop.

You can show up at the stops without having taken a bus.

posted by justread on Apr 20, 2017 at 02:51:53 pm     #  

Art Loop is a lot of fun. Hopefully the rain doesn't ruin it. We normally just walk and do the downtown area between the Davis Building and the St. Clair galleries.

posted by classylady on Apr 20, 2017 at 04:27:48 pm     #  

Cilantro at the old Diva on Huron had their soft grand opening today. Just found out about it, they should have announced it to get the Art Loop crowd in. Official grand opening is May 5 so that's a long soft opening period

posted by classylady on Apr 21, 2017 at 12:29:46 am     #  

Stopped by the new Potbelly for lunch. It was PACKED with people in line, but looked like most were taking their food to go. With online ordering and great prices, I think this place is going to do well.

The owner mentioned that they are open on Saturdays from 11am to 7pm. Good to know if I'm hankering for a sandwich but am not planning on going to west Toledo. I suspect the weekends will be quiet but I hope he gets enough traction to keep it open.

posted by upso on Apr 24, 2017 at 01:10:41 pm     #  

Quizno's was always packed too. Just saying ...

posted by westsidebob on Apr 24, 2017 at 01:24:55 pm     #  

LOL at 11-7pm on Saturdays. 7am-7pm M-F isn't quite as laughable as Saturdays, but I thought I saw hours of 10-3pm for Saturday @ Potbelly.

Grabbed a sandwich at Potbelly last week. It was decent, but I'll likely remain a Jimmy Johns regular because I haven't been to a more time efficient business.

posted by 6th_Floor on Apr 24, 2017 at 11:08:32 pm     #  

Potbelly is only open for brunch on Saturday. Not sure if it's a special menu or if they have their breakfast and lunch menus both available (they only serve breakfast until 11 weekdays). The owner was working when I was in there yesterday and told me they would be open on Sundays if there was a special event and possibly on hockey game nights.

posted by classylady on Apr 25, 2017 at 12:27:35 pm     #  

Potbelly is open 11 to 3 on Saturdays

posted by classylady on Apr 25, 2017 at 05:00:49 pm     #  

Ah good to know. I clearly misunderstood the owner! Thanks for the clarification.

posted by upso on Apr 25, 2017 at 05:28:38 pm     #  

Are the Mudhen's claiming to be sold out again tonight? We watched both the Walleyes and Mudhen's at a couple bars tonight and the Walleye's appeared to be packed on TV and the Mudhen seats that were showing up on the TV appeared that there were 4 empty seats to every occupied one.

And what's up with the bars that don't carry the Walleye and Mudhens games charging more than the bars that carry their games? The drink prices at Nine and Frickers that carry the local games on their TV's are cheaper than Durty Bird and Cock and Bull whose TVs don't have them. Shouldn't it be the opposite?

posted by classylady on Apr 25, 2017 at 10:49:01 pm     #  

Is Plate 1 ever going to open?

posted by stooks on Apr 26, 2017 at 07:16:11 am     #  

They move a couple ladders and some scaffolding inside around monthly, so look for additional coming soon news during 2018.

posted by 6th_Floor on Apr 26, 2017 at 07:39:09 am     #   1 person liked this

classylady posted at 10:49:01 PM on Apr 25, 2017:

Are the Mudhen's claiming to be sold out again tonight? We watched both the Walleyes and Mudhen's at a couple bars tonight and the Walleye's appeared to be packed on TV and the Mudhen seats that were showing up on the TV appeared that there were 4 empty seats to every occupied one.

And what's up with the bars that don't carry the Walleye and Mudhens games charging more than the bars that carry their games? The drink prices at Nine and Frickers that carry the local games on their TV's are cheaper than Durty Bird and Cock and Bull whose TVs don't have them. Shouldn't it be the opposite?

The Walleye were in game 7 of an intense playoff series (they won, btw - moving onto the next round!). That might explain why they were packed. Pretty exciting time to be a Toledo Walleye fan.

I haven't seen any figures for the mudhens. I know they post based on ticket sales, which I think is the standard way of doing things.... of course, I might also just be a stooge of the ECOWMANJTFWY** conglomerate, though. DEFINITELY would be surprised to see both events packed at the same time though.

** Evil Corporate Overlords Who Misrepresent Attendance Numbers Just To Fuck With You.

posted by endcycle on Apr 26, 2017 at 08:37:57 am     #   3 people liked this

Fifth Third Field has a seating capacity of 8,943. The standard for sports teams is to announce the PAID attendance. That is.....the number of tickets sold. My guess is.....the Toledo Mud Hens sell a lot (large percentage) of full season and partial season tickets that get unused during the non-peak games (weekdays, school in session). I think also included in the number of PAID attendance are promotional tickets that circulate, often within the corporate communities and businesses, as freebies or goodwill....again, since they (the Mud Hens) know they probably arent going to sell the tickets otherwise. They want bodies in the seats.....bodies that spend money on concessions....so often they give tickets away and probably account for them as being sold.

Without even looking at the figures, Im pretty confident regardless of weak attendance figures in April....The Toledo Mud Hens are a benchmark organization that most minor league franchises (and cities) would LOVE to emulate.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Apr 26, 2017 at 09:12:37 am     #   2 people liked this

Got downtown around 6:30 last night. No seats at the bar at Fricker's, Fleetwood's or downtown Johnny's. There had to be maybe 200 people in the seats at 5/3 when I walked by. 7,473 was the attendance at the Walleye game and their 100th sellout ever. I've been to all game 7's the last 2 years and probably a little more than half of their sellouts and it's never been as loud as it was last night. Great night in downtown.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Apr 26, 2017 at 11:50:53 am     #  

I went out last night when the hockey game was in the last part of the second period and the mudhens where in the 7th inning and Fricker's and Nine were packed. Fleetwood's was packed but I found a seat at the bar. Score for the hockey game was zero to zero when I got there but most of the game I saw was really good. Unfortunately the Mudhens didn't do as well.

It was great to see so many people out on a Tuesday. I noticed a few people were more interested in watching the Detroit game than the Toledo games. I left before the game was over but Detroit was doing very well, they were ahead by 10 runs

posted by jamesteroh on Apr 26, 2017 at 01:22:18 pm     #  

Grabbed lunch from Potbelly today and the owner told me currently for Saturday they only have the lunch menu available. He told me if someone wants to order on the breakfast menu on Saturday they can make it but there will be a short wait due to the prep time involved and they will consider having the breakfast items available on Saturday if there is enough demand for it.

My favorite places to go for Saturday brunch/lunch downtown are Bleakhouse for Waffles (they are now open Sunday's as well), Original Sub or if I want something light Maddie and Bella's for one of their signature toasts

posted by jamesteroh on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:10:26 am     #  

I'm hoping downtown will be at least as hopping as Tuesday with the Walleye and Mudhen's both at home this weekend.

Do the uptown bars have buckeye? I thought about going to Poco Loco if they do and watching the game there. Great food and cheapest drink prices in the downtown area

posted by jamesteroh on Apr 28, 2017 at 12:16:14 am     #  

Wife and I stopped at Rust Belt today and we were again surprised how busy it was. She has purchased about $2k of various furniture pieces there this year.

Mudhens were ppd. last night due to rain and have a double header scheduled for today. I'm sure they'll announce sellouts for both games despite less than 500 people actually being there.

posted by 6th_Floor on Apr 29, 2017 at 01:49:37 pm     #  

Went to Poco Loco last night. Very crowded, great food and drinks !!!! This place will soon become one of my regular stops !

posted by Hoops on Apr 30, 2017 at 11:28:58 am     #  

They seem to be doing a great lunch business. Every time I drive by the increase in parking is noteabke!

posted by upso on Apr 30, 2017 at 01:31:36 pm     #  

I went to poco loco Friday night around 8 and the place was packed. Food is amazing and prices are reasonable ($5.50 for a Margarita).

posted by jamesteroh on Apr 30, 2017 at 06:24:01 pm     #  

Boyfriend is off today and picked me up for lunch and took me to Poco Loco. First time having lunch there and man is the lunch buffet awesome. They had a couple items on the buffet that aren't on the menu including some kind of root that is similar to a French fry and some kind of sandwich that is different from the Cuban sandwich I have had before. Really busy for a Monday downtown area restaurant but very fast service seeing it's a buffet.

I asked the server if they have Buckeye and he said no so their TV's can't access the local games. If you want Mexican while watching a game, perhaps San Marcos bar might have Buckeye but the only problem is that they close at 9. Fricker's has the local games as well and cheap drink prices.

We went to Fleetwoods and Fricker's on Saturday to watch the Hockey Game and both bars were packed. I don't understand why they charge less for drinks than Durty Bird and Cock and Bull who don't carry the local sports games. Shouldn't the bars that carry the local games be the ones charging a premium?

posted by classylady on May 01, 2017 at 04:25:24 pm     #  

Cornerstones new "campus" downtown is now open. Not sure how well attended the services are.

posted by classylady on May 02, 2017 at 11:28:23 am     #  

Does anyone know what the hell is going on with Summit Street between Jefferson and Madison?

It's down to one lane each way and they have the middle of the road torn up.

posted by classylady on May 02, 2017 at 11:12:20 pm     #  

Packo's at the park has a good brunch. Seriously. I'm not even a Packo's fan. Former manager from Granite City has come over and put it together. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1597942750234416&id=116358425059530

posted by TrilbyGuy on May 03, 2017 at 11:33:23 am     #  

Packo's has a good Sunday brunch. And very reasonably priced. They used to have $2 coupons on their website as well.

I miss the old Marriott downtown for Sunday brunch. They had one of the best brunch buffets around

posted by jamesteroh on May 03, 2017 at 11:39:06 am     #  

the lack of fried pickles on the Packo's brunch menu is a deal breaker for me, but the notion of all you can eat hot dogs has a lot of my friends super excited!

posted by upso on May 03, 2017 at 11:46:48 am     #  

classylady posted at 11:28:23 AM on May 02, 2017:

Cornerstones new "campus" downtown is now open. Not sure how well attended the services are.

The announced attendance was 1250, but there were only 22 people actually there. Toledo doesnt really love Jesus.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on May 03, 2017 at 04:14:49 pm     #   3 people liked this

Does anyone know what the new building on Lafayette and Summit will be?

posted by ckbeats21 on May 03, 2017 at 06:21:07 pm     #  

Went to Cilantro's tonight and wasn't impressed. I'll give it another shot in a few weeks and hopefully they will have their act together by then but I think he should have stuck to the food truck.

Place was packed and I got the last seat at the bar. No liquor license yet and they only had soft drinks (not too good for a Mexican place on Cinco De Mayo). There was a small DJ set up and she wasn't that good and the music was too loud.

They serve breakfast all day and there was a dish that looked good on the breakfast menu but they were out of cilantro. I ended up ordering two of the tacos with fried rice and it took almost 45 minutes to get the food. Someone delivered two large burritos to me and I told him that wasn't my order and he insisted it was:) The bartender came over a couple minutes later and said he had given me another tables food and they had mine and she had to send everything back. Usually when that happens the kitchen makes it a priority to get the right food out but they didn't in that case.

Food finally came and the tacos were as good as the food trucks but no rice. Check came and they still charged me for the rice and I had to wait another five minutes while she found a manager to take it off. Service was so bad I almost walked out.

Food was good but sure not worth the wait and poor service and I thought the prices were a little higher than Poco Loco's and poco loco gives you chips and salsa (it was a $3 or $3.50 charge for chips and salsa).

I think I'll stick to Poco Loco

posted by jamesteroh on May 05, 2017 at 09:43:14 pm     #  

they were out of cilantro

You had ONE job.

posted by ahmahler on May 05, 2017 at 10:25:07 pm     #   6 people liked this

Charging for chips and salsa? That's un-MexicanAmerican.

posted by JoeyGee on May 06, 2017 at 07:06:56 am     #   5 people liked this

Not saying it's a bad sign, but when a restaurant is out of the item it's named after...

posted by mixman on May 06, 2017 at 03:15:03 pm     #   2 people liked this

soft opening during a major related eating and drinking holiday without their liquor license is just insane to me. wish them the best but will wait a couple of months to try it out...

posted by upso on May 06, 2017 at 05:45:31 pm     #   1 person liked this

Sadly their soft opening was April 20th so they've had a few weeks to work it out.

posted by In_vin_veritas on May 07, 2017 at 08:10:30 am     #  

upso - they don't have the discipline to wait. They see income opportunity. Now they will fight an uphill battle repairing their brand.

posted by Molsonator on May 07, 2017 at 08:14:45 am     #   1 person liked this

Just a semi-regular reminder, and this isn't directed at any one comment or poster, opening and running a restaurant is super fucking hard. We all, have a tendency to think ourselves experts in restaurants (yelp is a great example of this). I hope Cilantro's does well. I'll definitely suspend judgement until it's been around for a little while. It's interesting that you have 2 Mexican Restaurants in downtown (no snark please), just a few blocks from each other. Poco Loco seems to garner nothing but raves, and I'm guessing this is a beneficiary of their many years of experience.

In other downtown rumblings-I'm hearing Kobe Bay is doing a great business. I have not been, nor have I heard anything first hand, but the vendors they work with are thrilled.

posted by ahmahler on May 07, 2017 at 09:21:36 am     #   2 people liked this

Sorry it was chorizo they were out of not cilantro. Not sure why I typed cilantro. But still a big item for a Mexican restaraunt to be out of, especially on opening day.

I will give them another chance in a few weeks once they get their liquor license and have time to get their act together. I normally don't ask for a discount or expect one, but if they would have offered me a discount off the bill for all the mess ups instead of charging me for an item I never received and then having to wait on a manager to adjust it it would have gone a long way in that case.

They have two good Mexican restaraunts in opposite directions of them (Poco Loco and San Marcos which I admit has gone downhill a little lately). Poco Loco has a few people that used to work at San Marcos so I am sure that helps. A lot of the staff at Cilantro acted like it was their first night working in a restaurant such as the guys bringing out the food continually delivering the wrong food to the wrong tables.

One other complaint I had was they had a very limited selection of items on the menu. I hope they get their act together and wish them well. It will be nice having a place open late night on weekends near my place

posted by jamesteroh on May 07, 2017 at 11:15:09 am     #  

Decided to stop in for lunch, service was good and quick Chef made his way around to everyone and made recommendations. Seemed very friendly and wanted to know what people like didn't like etc.

posted by In_vin_veritas on May 07, 2017 at 08:54:10 pm     #  

" It will be nice having a place open late night on weekends near my place."

Enjoy it while it lasts because Cilantro's will soon have adjusted hours along with Potbelly.

posted by 6th_Floor on May 07, 2017 at 10:59:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

They've already "adjusted" their hours. When they first announced they were opening they were going to be open until 4 a.m. Weekends and now it's 2. They aren't near any bars, etc so not sure how they can stay open that late. Now Poco Loco I could see doing well being open late since they are near a few bars and in an entertainment district where people can get to go drinks.

posted by jamesteroh on May 08, 2017 at 02:29:30 pm     #  

I thought it was Poco Loco that had promised the super late hours?

posted by upso on May 08, 2017 at 09:42:38 pm     #  

https://www.hartinc.com/2017/05/09/hart-invests-in-downtown-toledo/

Well that didn't take long! Hart will be moving 60 employees into the Hylant Building. Hickory who?

posted by Johio83 on May 09, 2017 at 10:07:29 am     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 06:21:07 PM on May 03, 2017:

Does anyone know what the new building on Lafayette and Summit will be?

It's the new location for West Erie Realty. They use to be in the building across from them on S St Clair. They will also have a tenant in the building with them, to be determined yet.

posted by warehousedistrict2 on May 09, 2017 at 11:02:15 am     #  

Anyone heard anymore on Fowl and Fodder coming downtown? Is that a dead deal? I haven't heard anything about it in a long time.

I also haven't heard anything about Plate 21 opening up their downtown store in a while. Why does it take a coffee house so long to open up when the previous tenant was a coffee house? It took Maddie & Bella well over a year to open up and that was also an existing coffee house.

posted by classylady on May 09, 2017 at 11:28:33 am     #  

Fowl and Fodder is still churning along. They periodically post pictures of some of the renovations going on, and revealed some renderings of the frontage on their facebook page a few weeks ago.

posted by Johio83 on May 09, 2017 at 11:33:39 am     #  

https://twitter.com/IgnazioMessina/status/862006155593306112

"Proposed changes to outdoor drinking @city_of_toledo council considering includes expanded hours downtown"

Has anyone heard about this?

posted by ckbeats21 on May 09, 2017 at 03:08:49 pm     #  

They were originally going to have a variety of times based on the day, as they do in UpTown. Evening hours on week nights, more or less all day on weekends. They decided, given the sprawl of this new ORA, it would be easier to keep everyone on the same schedule if they just made it the same hours every day. I don't remember what the hours will be, but they're going for 12 hour blocks. Noon to midnight? 1pm-1am?

posted by Johio83 on May 09, 2017 at 03:13:31 pm     #  

Was Cilantro's open today? I looked a couple times this evening and it wasn't open. They're grand opening appears to be an even greater dud than Martini & Nuzzi at that location.

posted by 6th_Floor on May 09, 2017 at 10:05:05 pm     #  

Their...

posted by 6th_Floor on May 09, 2017 at 10:06:34 pm     #  

jamesteroh posted at 02:29:30 PM on May 08, 2017:

They've already "adjusted" their hours. When they first announced they were opening they were going to be open until 4 a.m. Weekends and now it's 2. They aren't near any bars, etc so not sure how they can stay open that late. Now Poco Loco I could see doing well being open late since they are near a few bars and in an entertainment district where people can get to go drinks.

The next "announcement" may be something similar to "Thanks for the memories."

posted by 6th_Floor on May 09, 2017 at 10:11:27 pm     #  

Unfortunately there tinted windows make it hard to tell if they are open. Sunday I walked by twice and had to google them to see if they were open.

posted by In_vin_veritas on May 09, 2017 at 10:26:16 pm     #  

We went to Cilantro's Saturday and the service was awful. I don't like that they charge for chips and salsa, especially when you have to wait close to an hour for your food. I wanted to ask the server how much the sodas were and just pay for those and walk out after a half hour and being told there was a charge for chips and salsa but my boyfriend wanted to wait it out since he liked their tacos they had on their food truck.

His tacos were good but my tamales were lukewarm and I sent them back and had to wait another ten minutes.

They are going to have a tough time making it with that kind of service if they don't get a liquor license soon.

Their facebook reviews have several complaints about the poor service.

And it sounds like he stiffed his DJ. They left a one star review complaining he stiffed them and the owner was too big of a coward to talk to him/her. The owner left a lame ass reply that he was busy with a fire inspector and would give her some free taco's. When an owner stiffs a DJ and gives a piss poor response like that then I have no desire to deal with them.

posted by classylady on May 09, 2017 at 11:26:56 pm     #  

Just looked at the reviews for Cilantro's. They have a lot of pissed off reviewers (and these are people who have done multi-reviews not the competition setting up accounts to flame them). The best review they have is a three and there is only one three star. The rest are one and two stars. They really need to get their shit together or they won't be around very long, especially with competition like Carlo's Poco Loco only a mile down the road
https://www.yelp.com/biz/cilantros-toledo

posted by classylady on May 10, 2017 at 11:28:47 am     #  

I just read the Yelp reviews for them, YIKES. Hopefully the owner is paying attention. I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant reviewed that poorly. I hope they improve though, because I did enjoy the food once I finally got the right order.

When there are that many complaints about wrong orders and poor service that should tell the owner he needs to take action right away. I also noticed a few complaints about them charging for Salsa and chips, when Poco Loco and San Marco's and every other Mexican place I've been to who have similar prices provide it for free, they should as well. Especially when you have to wait that long to get your food.

posted by jamesteroh on May 10, 2017 at 05:03:37 pm     #  

Hensville is doing great tonight. Watched the first period of the game at fleetwoods and it was Sro at the Barr. Boyfriend wanted to sit out on the deck and enjoy the weather but hoping I can talk him into going back to watch the end of the game. It's great that the hensville bars dint Gaige customers with absurd drink prices and in face they are cheaper than a couple bars near them that don't even carry the local games.

posted by classylady on May 12, 2017 at 08:37:25 pm     #  

DT will be the place to be tonight and tomorrow

posted by ckbeats21 on May 12, 2017 at 10:18:24 pm     #  

Great to see the Walleyes doing so well. Tomorrows game is sold out.

Cilantro's still doesn't have their liquor license.

posted by jamesteroh on May 12, 2017 at 10:35:55 pm     #  

Running a restaurant is really hard.

posted by Molsonator on May 13, 2017 at 07:26:17 am     #  

Apparently Cilantros has new hours...10am - 10pm.

He should have waited to have the liquor license in hand before opening the doors to the public.

posted by 6th_Floor on May 13, 2017 at 09:17:52 am     #  

I one hundred percent agree. Such a foolish move.

Downtown was insane last night. So cool to see all the streets full of cars. We had a blast at the Arts Commission's fund raiser. "The Mix" really is the best party in Toledo.

posted by upso on May 13, 2017 at 02:51:07 pm     #  

And as usual, the Maker's Mart, held at Handmade Toledo, was/is busy today. After a hard day of shopping, it's now time to relax at the Paula Brown Shop, enjoying the weather.

posted by jr on May 13, 2017 at 04:18:26 pm     #  

The Pub at the Paula Brown Shop is one of the best hidden gems in Toledo. The quality of their liquor selection is just about unmatched in the area.

posted by Johio83 on May 13, 2017 at 04:46:36 pm     #  

Yeah, we've been big fans of the Paula Brown Shop for a few years: the bar, the store of household and kitchen wares, and the art gallery area, which currently features posters from the 1980s to approximately today, designed by Toledo area designers.

After a couple cocktails each at PBS, we planned to sit at the bar at Registry Bistro, but the parking was already gnarley and pricey shortly after 5:00 pm because of some kind of hockey thing. Therefore we headed to the St. Clair Street area, but that was also hopping. So we fell back to Uptown and sat outside at Manhattan's for a while.

Then we crossed the border into Sylvania without papers and sat at the bar at Element 112, which is sort of an outdoor bar this evening because they have the garage door open.

We love to sit at the bar at establishments and chat with the bartenders, and the Element 112 bartender this evening is impressive. Beverage artists.

posted by jr on May 13, 2017 at 07:30:32 pm     #   1 person liked this

I like the Paula Brown store and Pub. I'm hoping she has the store open during the art loop this summer (the pub was open but the store was closed during the April art loop). They have a lot of cool stuff in the shop but it's hard for me to get there when it's open except during the art loop.

I wasn't the impressed with Regency. I went there last month and asked for a screw driver and they couldn't make one because they didn't have Orange Juice, first time I've been to any bar that didn't have OJ, I thought that was a bar staple.

posted by jamesteroh on May 13, 2017 at 09:37:07 pm     #  

I met a friend for dinner at Poco Loco tonight and didn't know the Maker Mart was going on until I got there. I checked it out after dinner and was really busy and lots of cool items. Some food trucks across the street on items, people must love ice cream that go to it because there were three different ice cream trucks. Holy Toledo Doughnuts had a food truck out back, those donuts are amazing. Perfect weather

Poco Loco was really busy at 6:30 when I got there and looked like there was a wait when we left.

I rode my bike over and Uptown needs bike racks. There were a lot of bikes on adams chained to street signs and lamp posts (I chained mine to the fence of Ottawa tavern).

posted by jamesteroh on May 13, 2017 at 09:41:19 pm     #  

+1 on Cilantro waiting until they had the liquor license to open up. I can understand wanting to open on Cinco De Mayo but a huge mistake not having a liquor license and then not having a properly trained staff. Created a lot of bad goodwill

posted by jamesteroh on May 13, 2017 at 09:43:48 pm     #  

Hey, I was at Poco Loco tonight, too! What a crazy day today has been in downtown Toledo. With the run and the Farmers Market this morning, the Walleye game and Makers Mart this afternoon/evening, I think this is the most consistently busy I've ever seen it all over.

posted by Johio83 on May 14, 2017 at 12:13:56 am     #  

first time I've been to any bar that didn't have OJ, I thought that was a bar staple.

I drink, professionally. I read drink menus more than food menus. OJ, pineapple juice, have been relegated to supper clubs. Not a criticism, just very much, out of fashion at the moment. If you go to a restaurant that serves 2 meals a day, you'll probably find both. In this case, I'd suggest the bartender recommendations.

posted by ahmahler on May 14, 2017 at 01:03:12 am     #   1 person liked this

Degage Jazz Cafe in Maumee set to close May 27th.

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/05/16/Degage-Jazz-Cafe-in-Maumee-to-close.html

posted by WestToledoan on May 16, 2017 at 10:25:16 pm     #  

Boyfriend and I were in the mood for Mexican and since neither of us was in the mood for adult beverages tonight and didn't care whether or not Cilantro had their liquor license yet decided to go there for street tacos.

We wasted our time walking over because we were greeted by a sign on the door saying they have new hours. They are now open Sun to Thursday from 10 to 3 and Friday and Saturday 10 to 10. They have been open less than two weeks and this is the second time they have had reduced their hours. They should be open late at least on game nights.

Why even bother being open on Sunday? Unless there is a day game there is no one in that area between 10 and 3 on a Sunday.

If they do another reduction in hours they may as well just shut down. It appears they are headed in that direction already anyway.

posted by classylady on May 17, 2017 at 09:50:32 pm     #  

Art loop wasn't as busy as I thought it would be seeing the nice weather. I was disappointed that Paula Brown shop and some of the other stores downtown didn't stay open past 5 today for it.

Ended up going for a nice walk and the Adams street stores were busier than the downtown galleries. Ended up at Poco Loco and ran into a friend that also lives downtown and he agreed with me that it's a matter of when, not if, Cilantro closes.

Poco Loco really has their act together. Carlos is always there working hard along with his staff and making sure his customers are happy and the prices are very reasonable. My only gripe is their salsa is too mild and found a good work around. Put a drop of the habanero chile hot sauce that is in the condiment rack on the table in it, problem solved.

posted by classylady on May 18, 2017 at 10:32:02 pm     #  

"My only gripe is their salsa is too mild and found a good work around."

I found that to be true of his Perrysburg location too. I asked for something hotter and he delivered. I believe they have hotter - you just need to ask.

posted by Foodie on May 19, 2017 at 02:56:23 pm     #  

I agree about Poco Loco's salsa being too mild as well and I always had hot sauce to it. I'll ask for spicy salsa next time I'm there. It's easy enough to make mild salsa spicier but impossible to make hot salsa mild:)

I think it's one of the best new restaurants to open up in the downtown area in a long time. Food and service is great, plenty of parking nearby and prices are very reasonable.

I go there once or twice a week. I wonder if San Marco's is hurting much. I live only a couple blocks from San Marco's and haven't been to the restaurant since Poco Loco opened and I recognize some of the PL staff from San Marco's. PL has better food, better service, and they don't close at 9. My biggest complaint with San Marco's is they close at 9 on weekends.

posted by jamesteroh on May 19, 2017 at 03:36:36 pm     #  

Cilantro's made a post a few days ago saying they have new prices...any info on this?

posted by ckbeats21 on May 21, 2017 at 12:21:58 am     #  

http://imgur.com/a/VK1tL

posted by stooks on May 22, 2017 at 08:34:25 am     #  

stooks posted at 08:34:25 AM on May 22, 2017:

http://imgur.com/a/VK1tL

Not bad but I wonder if their dinner menu is more expensive...

posted by ckbeats21 on May 22, 2017 at 10:37:38 am     #  

Their menu is on their website:
cilantrostoledo.com

It appears they are still charging $3 for chips and salsa. I was hoping they would have a lunch buffet like Poco Loco.

Still no liquor permit.

posted by classylady on May 22, 2017 at 12:56:27 pm     #  

classylady posted at 12:56:27 PM on May 22, 2017:

Their menu is on their website:
cilantrostoledo.com

It appears they are still charging $3 for chips and salsa. I was hoping they would have a lunch buffet like Poco Loco.

Still no liquor permit.

The menu on their website differs from the image that was just posted above.

posted by ckbeats21 on May 22, 2017 at 01:17:57 pm     #  

Went to Poco Loco again tonight, great as always.

I biked tonight and like the last time I biked there were several other bikes on that part of Adams. I'm not comfortable locking my bike to one of the street sign posts and there was already another bike locked to the street lamp post so I locked mine to the fence of the Ottawa Tavern since it was the only secure place.

I mentioned something to the manager (I think he's also one of the owners he is always there) that they should provide some kind of bike parking and mentioned that I lock my bike on the OT fence and feel kind of guilty since I'm not going there:)

He told me that they are in the process of getting a fenced in area like they have at OT shortly and people can lock their bikes to that. That will be nice having outdoor dining there even though there will only be room for a couple tables.

I complimented on the food and was telling him about the great reviews on TT and he had never heard of this site but was going to look at it now:)

posted by jamesteroh on May 23, 2017 at 11:47:43 pm     #  

so, I know, I know... it's memorial day weekend and I shouldn't be surprised how busy it was tonight downtown. but holy crap, downtown was nuts!

we headed out in hopes for some margaritas and tacos at Polo Loco... nope! The block was shut down for some big event either at the OT or at the Truth gallery...

so we said fuck it! and drove to San Marcos... nope! parking lot(s) were completely full and there was only one table left in the incredibly packed restaurant. we passed...

headed over to the docks in hopes maybe we could get a seat on the patio. NOPE... parking lot beyond capacity!

beyond the baseball game, which took up all street parking downtown, what the heck else was going on? it was incredible to see so much downtown activation. What will downtown look like next year on the same night when Promedica is open?

I know next week tuesday it might be dead at 7pm but damn... tonight it was beyond capacity!

posted by upso on May 26, 2017 at 10:48:43 pm     #   2 people liked this

Just ate at Poco Loco for the first time. Best Mexican food in Toledo. My quesadilla was filled with actual steak. My gf had the grilled pineapple and loved it. The frozen margaritas were pretty good too.

posted by TrilbyGuy on May 27, 2017 at 07:44:00 pm     #   2 people liked this

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