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I have a quick ?????

Every Spring my neighbor syphons the water out of his inground pool into the street via a garden hose. Many parts of the street are still water logged due to all the recent rain. Is it legal for him to do this and if not who do I report it to??

created by RockChick on May 27, 2011 at 06:46:08 pm     Legal     Comments: 9

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Have you asked him to stop? Is this actually inconveniencing the use of your property or hurting your property?

Most likely, there is not much you can do unless it is ruining your property in some manner. You can look through the Toledo code and try to find a violation. However, even if you find something that fits, the likelihood that anything will be done is beyond miniscule.

The best thing -- if he's not willing to listen and address your concerns -- would be to go outside with a camera and take pictures while he is doing this. Probably difficult since the timeframe is so small, but the intimidation of taking pictures and stating that you'll take legal action would likely be enough to make him stop.

I don't deal in these matters, so that's just my best advice. Maybe someone will know better than I.

posted by JJFad on May 27, 2011 at 07:03:33 pm     #  

Or you could thank him for removing a very large source of mosquitos in your neighborhood

posted by Linecrosser on May 27, 2011 at 09:03:22 pm     #  

yes, it's legal for him to do that. He's really using the same sewer as if he pumped it into his shower drain. It all goes to the same place. He pays his bill. He gets to use the sewer.
No matter how much he dumps from his pool, unless it's going into your yard, it won't make a bit of difference to the total amount of water that has saturated the area recently.

posted by hockeyfan on May 27, 2011 at 09:59:39 pm     #  

Heh - I saw the opposite in my neighborhood, which is a dude with an inground pool who uses a city fire hydrant to fill his pool. He had some sort of adapter that he affixed to the hydrant, which he connected to a hose about twice the diameter of a regular garden hose, and in broad daylight he helped himself to many thousands of gallons of free water. THAT, I am pretty sure, is behavior worthy of a citation (or at least an extra bill from the Water Department). God forbid the next time doofus fills up his pool there is a fire nearby, and the firefighters face delays in accessing the hydrant.

posted by historymike on May 28, 2011 at 06:27:43 am     #  


posted by toledolen_ on May 28, 2011 at 07:17:12 am     #  

historymike, Are you sure he did not have a permit with an adaptor provided by the water department for a fee?

posted by Trilby on May 28, 2011 at 08:01:20 am     #  

I suppose it is possible, Trilby, but I do not recall the use of a the required hydrant meter in the incident. This looked homeowner-rigged, as water was spraying at the hydrant into the street and at connections. I recall it was also on Memorial Day weekend, which made me suspicious, given the reduced number of city employees working to police such stuff.

posted by historymike on May 28, 2011 at 08:35:59 am     #  

Perfectly legal as sewer bills are calculated based upon the water used by the home and most people with a pool have a winter average for their sewers so as not to pay exhorbitant sewer bills simply because they happen to fill a pool once a year.

There are metered hydrant adaptors that pool owners can use to fill their pools - I learned this when a neighbor did the same thing and everyone in the area asked me if it was legal. So I made some calls and found out about the metered hydrant adaptors. The city, at the time, kept a record of people who had requested them and which hydrant they were planning to use so they could easily confirm that it was an approved use of the hydrant. Don't know if you'd be able to get that information over the Memorial Day weekend.

posted by MaggieThurber on May 28, 2011 at 10:20:46 am     #  

Hey RockChick, you sound like you'd really like to find some way to get your neighbor in trouble. Sorry, not this time, but if you'll keep peeking through the curtains and watching every move he makes, you'll get him sooner or later. I'm guessing that you're the annoying one on your street.

posted by AmericanPie on May 28, 2011 at 07:50:06 pm     #