He's Coming Toledo!

Isn't that the open minded, civil mannered fellow who was suspended for calling a female broadcaster he didn't agree with a "slut" several times during his on-air rant?

Is that Ed's "O" face?

Well, would you look at this - Ed Schultz suspended from MSNBC after calling Laura Ingraham a ‘right wing slut’

Who would ever think that a kind, considerate and erudite man such as Ed Schultz would ever stoop to such uncouth behavior. Why, anyone would think he was a loudmouthed, boorish Moonbat! And he isn't, is he Wolf? He's just your regular left wing talk show host.

Right?

The "right wing slut" in question is also a single mother (two adopted children) and a breast cancer survivor (2005 diagnosis).

<sarcasm>Yeah, Ed is going to go over big...especially with women, I'm sure </sarcasm>.

It's only right if it's Left.

I think the only question now wolfie is just how much money will you be leaving on the nightstand?

Come on Fred Lefool I know you finally figured out that Ed Shultz is coming to Toledo next week.I've only been posting this for the last week.It sad that a so-called news radio station called Speedy is always behind when reporting the breaking news. Just like the tornado last year in Wood county (June 2010) that happened on a Saturday while all of the WSPD news staff were relaxing. Some half rated non union slugs! While you clowns were relaxing the hard working union Jeep workforce was working overtime on the weekend banging out high quality Jeeps. When was it Fred that you worked over 15 hours a week?

Ed Schultz?

Isn't that the open minded, civil mannered fellow who was suspended for calling a female broadcaster he didn't agree with a "slut" several times during his on-air rant?

I know you finally figured out that Ed Shultz is coming to Toledo next week.I've only been posting this for the last week.It sad that a so-called news radio station called Speedy is always behind when reporting the breaking news. Just like the tornado last year in Wood county (June 2010) that happened on a Saturday while all of the WSPD news staff were relaxing. Some half rated non union slugs! While you clowns were relaxing the hard working union Jeep workforce was working overtime on the weekend banging out high quality Jeeps. When was it Fred that you worked over 15 hours a week?

Wow. What complete bullshit.

1.) Are you seriously comparing an appearance by a radio personality (that isn't even heard in the market) and the tornado in Wood County as equivalent "breaking news"? I didn't even think you were this stupid...but there it is in black 'n' white.

2.) Yeah, the WSPD newsroom is in Columbus. We've known that for a long time. However I can assure you, even the workers at the centralized news facility--covering a number of radio station's news needs--are working their asses off. I've been to one of these centralized news departments and I guarantee you they are not participating in activities such as the 'hard working' union Chrysler Detroit workforce you see here

3.) the hard working union Jeep workforce was working overtime on the weekend banging out high quality Jeeps.

Once again, WTF? Are blind? Stupid? Both? Do you even pay attention to consumer evaluation firms like Consumer Reports?

ABC News: The Worst Cars On The Road

We should also note that nearly every car or truck made today is safer, more efficient and more reliable than anything on the road even as recently as 15 years ago. But that doesn't excuse just how often vehicles like the Jeep Liberty [BUILT IN TOLEDO] are panned for poor reliability or poor fuel economy--or both.

Jeep's Liberty and Wrangler earned spots on Consumer Reports' Least Reliable list for 2011. The Wrangler also received Consumer Reports' Worst Value and Worst Cars distinctions, the latter of which is based on more than 50 individual Consumer Reports tests and evaluations. The Wrangler also appeared on our Worst Cars list last year.

The Dodge Nitro also was listed among Consumer Reports Worst Value, Consumer Reports Worst Cars, Consumer Reports Least Reliable, Consumer Reports Worst Fuel Economy.

"...banging out high-quality Jeeps". Ummm...no. Nobody ranks them as high-quality anything. Expensive, yes. High quality, don't think so.

You know, wolfie isn't respresentative of the union mentailty as i know it, he is "extreme". Wolfie, please do NOT screw it up by your bullshit retoric. IF you really care about the unions, you are going about it the wrong way, you are playing into their hand by being the typical UAW overpaid blah blah blah. You're actually hurting the movement. Knock it off already will yea???

shamrock44 the only one I've called a slut is you shamrock! Get your facts straight goof! I don't call WSPD after the few times that I did the "hosts" either hung up or potted over my comments with their rantings. I've never called anyone a slut until now. This is why I began posting on the local blogs because our public airwaves are polluted with extreme right wing hate talk and anyone with an opposing views are shut out with various techniques.Thank God JR is tolerant of free speech and allows the give and take of a healthy democracy.

As for TM you are definitely out of the loop. Sitting on your hands with duct tape over your mouth will only get you to the promised land but as a man, and if I'm reading you right, I've known many like you who go through life looking the other way as the bull shit rises around you till the smell is overwhelming but not a sound will you make, I'm getten mine is the attitude. If you think this shit that is a rising all around us will be solved by the likes of YOU and your approved style of leadership for the past thirty years you better go back and read how it was for Walter Ruether my friend. Don't tell me that I'm not the norm better step back an tell that to all the UAW workers who are now working at poverty wages with no hope of retirement. I know you got yours what about theirs! Come see Ed Shultz Wednesday he's extreme also as many of us are maybe we can talk there. But as you see your comments solved nothing. You know my name ask around I'll be there. TM looking forward to seeing you.

Shamrock44 my mistake I take back the slut comment

Thank you Wolfman - I feel as though my good character and chaste reputaion are now again intact.

:-)

BTW - good debate!

oldhometown we do not engineer or manufacture vendor parts we just install them. Those were designed by the previous owners Der Daimler! However I can assure you, even the workers at the centralized Jeep facility--covering a number of work assignments in the number 1 award winning efficient North American auto assembly plant--are working their asses off.

Toyota, Chrysler have North Americas most efficient plants

Paradoxically, North America’s most efficient single plant is the Toledo, Ohio, facility where Chrysler makes Jeeps, the 36th out of 36 brands in terms of initial quality, according to Wednesday’s J.D. Power and Associates report. Typically, an efficient plant puts out a high-quality product, Harbour says.

But not at Jeep. 36th out of 36. Dead. Friggin'. Last. Why?

OK, you can blame the parts from the "vendors"...but the outsourcing of parts to vendors is a good portion as to why the plant is #1 "efficient". On top of that, look at the last line, "typically an efficient plant puts out a high quality product". It's not happening in Toledo, by anybody's measure (now you have JD Power data to go along with Consumer Reports).

It has been this way for years. Are you telling me that management spent millions of dollars on a new Toledo facility just to have it be a shithole? To be the plant where the least reliable automobiles are produced? What possible sense would that make? Something is culturally deficient in that place and the stories among Toledoans who have family that worked for Jeep through the years are legendary.

But bottom line is--they can "work their asses off" all they want. They're turning out shit. Consumer Reports, JD Power, Motor Trend...they all say it. You want more sales, leading to more jobs/shifts at the plant? If I were the union, I would raise my public profile by saying "You know what--fuck extra pay and even more benefits than we already get. You guys (owners) are making us look like morons, forcing us to use shitty parts and crank out shitty vehicles and we, the union members, refuse to put our reputation next to the least reliable, least quality things this place cranks out. Fix it, re-engineer it, find new vendors that make good parts, or we're on strike."

And you know what--even as a conservative--I might be behind them with a stand like that. But as of now, Toledo-made Jeeps are piles of crap. So your line of "banging out high quality Jeeps" is completely unconnected to any sort of reality...but then again, I'm used to that from you.

Oh, and good job avoiding that first question I asked you ("are you seriously comparing an appearance by a radio personality (that isn't even heard in the market) and the tornado in Wood County as equivalent "breaking news"?). I knew you wouldn't have an answer...

OMG, I actually read this comment in your post to tm2

..."better step back an tell that to all the UAW workers who are now working at poverty wages with no hope of retirement."

Poverty wages? Poverty??? You've completely gone around the bend.

Reuters (9/9/11): Chrysler, UAW discuss entry-level wage boost-sources

Of Detroit's three automakers, Chrysler by far has the highest level of entry-level -- or second-tier -- workers, who start at $14.89 an hour, about half the hourly wage of a veteran production worker.

Starting wage: $14.89/hr x 40 (hrs) x 48 (wks) = $28,588.80 (just throwing in 48 weeks as a low-ball amount--multiply by 50 or 52 weeks and the salary goes higher)

Veteran worker: $14.89 × 2 = $29.78 × 40 (hrs) x 48 (wks) = $57,177.60.

2011 HHS Poverty Guidelines

Poverty line for single wage earner: $10,890
Poverty line for family of four: $22,350

The other source said Chrysler has proposed to increase wages to between $16 and $18 an hour.

So what have we learned:

1.) The internet can be used for actual research and not just cutting/pasting/parroting distortions

2.) A single starting worker at a generic Chrysler facility ($14.89/hr.) makes--just on wages--three times the poverty level for a single earner ($28,588 vs. $10,890) and much more than the "poverty line" for a family of four.

3.) I'm not even counting any benefits, overtime, bonuses, etc. These are just wages. "Poverty"...puh-leeeze....

4.) Chrysler is gearing up to increase starting wages--so it's going to get even better for new hires.

5.) Everything that guy just said is bullshit. Thank you.

WIC (Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children)

WIC provides nutritious foods, nutrition education, and referrals to health and other social services to low-income pregnant, postpartum and breastfeeding women, and infants and children up to age 5 who are at nutrition risk. WIC participants receive checks or vouchers to purchase nutritious foods each month, including infant cereal, iron-fortified adult cereal, vitamin C-rich fruit or vegetable juice, eggs, milk, cheese, peanut butter, dried and canned beans/peas, and canned fish. Other options such as fruits and vegetables, baby foods, and whole wheat bread were recently added. Participants family income must fall at or below 185 percent of the U.S. Poverty Income Guidelines (in 2010, $40,793 for a family of four). Eligibility is also granted to participants in other benefit programs, such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, Medicaid, or Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. Children are the largest category of WIC participants. Of the 8.7 million people who received WIC benefits each month in FY 2008, approximately 4.3 million were children, 2.2 million were infants, and 2.2 million were women. The cost of the program is $7.252 billion for WIC in FY2010. WIC is not an entitlement program: Congress does not set aside funds to allow every eligible individual to participate in the program. Instead, WIC is a Federal grant program for which Congress authorizes a specific amount of funding each year for program operations.

National School Lunch Program The National School Lunch Program is a federally assisted meal program that provides nutritionally balanced, low-cost or free lunches to children from low income families, reaching 30.5 million children in 2008. Children from families with incomes at or below 130 percent of the poverty level are eligible for free meals. Those with incomes between 130 percent and 185 percent of the poverty level are eligible for reduced-price meals, for which students can be charged no more than 40 cents. (For the period July 1, 2009, through June 30, 2010, 130 percent of the poverty level is $28,665 for a family of four; 185 percent is $40,793.) Children from families with incomes over 185 percent of poverty pay a full price, though their meals are still subsidized to some extent by the program. Program cost was $9.3 billion in 2008. (USDA School Lunch Program)
http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/us_hunger_facts.htm

You're assuming that all workers who work at jeep are making 14/hr. this is not the case as much of the jeep facility is outsourced to suppliers many who only pay 12/hr. Also we know that the defined benefit retirement program that was a staple for generations has been decimated by Reagomics over the last three decades. We now have the fickled 401K program that none can afford to pay into at the rock bottom wages of 14/hr that working families are now trying to live on. Then we have the stock market with the 0% returns of the S&P 500 over the last decade. You see oldhometown the economy will never grow when the wealth is concentrated to only 10% of the population. The 90% are now tapped out and cannot spend as they have in the past and cannot pay the taxes that will sustain our economy.

"The 90% are now tapped out and cannot spend as they have in the past and cannot pay the taxes that will sustain our economy."

Pay the taxes that will sustain our economy?!?!?!

If anyone is curious what the apex of stupidity looks like...see above.

Wolfman,

I'm not familiar with your background but have you ever considered investing your money or working with a group of like minded people and pooling your money to open a business? If necessary you could even borrow money to open the business. You could hire the workers and pay them as befits your philosophy and they could work the hours and receive the benefits that you promote. Secondly, are you responsible to provide a good job for anyone on this earth? Did you emerge from the womb with the responsibility to hire any individual or group of individuals? If not... why do you place this burden on others? Lastly, with so many cutbacks and layoffs and unfair treatment described by union workers why are they not pooling their resources and hard earned money to open businesses and hire other like minded people and pay union wage and benefits?

The 90% are now tapped out and cannot spend as they have in the past and cannot pay the taxes that will sustain our economy. - But Wolfie you are ok with the 90% of T-Towners that gave Chrysler 9 MILLION dollars? It's all big evil big business CEOs till it's your big evil big business CEOs getting the money.

End public money for private corporations, ALL OF THEM.

End public money for private corporations, ALL OF THEM.

Never thought I'd agree with dbw, but there it is. With no public money going to private corporations, no tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, and no tax abatements as incentives to move to other locales, we wouldn't have municipalities trying to lure corporations away.

Now back to the original post: who IS this guy?

Danneskjold, Wolfman's real name is Paul Wohlfarth and he lives in Michigan. He is a certified nutjob.

He is a certified nutjob.

By both political parties.

Amen, madjack. LOL.

Sigh.

Wolfman, posting information about WIC and school lunches doesn't prove anything more than we're wasting money on those programs. Just because WIC says poverty is 185% of the poverty level doesn't make it so.

That a family pulling in $40,000 in Toledo, Ohio--where the median (half above/half below) family income is around $32,000--can get still be eligible for food stamps and all sorts of welfare is nauseating.

$40,000 in this cheap-cost-of-living town and still can't feed yourself or your kids without WIC or reduced price school lunches? Are you friggin' kidding me?

Vendors only pay $12/hr instead of $14.89? Who gives a fuck? Those people work for the vendors--free independent businesses apart from Jeep that can pay 'em what they want or can afford. I'm talking about Jeep workers, employees of the Chrysler (well, Fiat) Corporation. Starting wage: $14.89/hr. Soon to be $16-18 an hour.

If that wage is so bad or insulting, quit and I'm sure there will be plenty of applicants for the jobs. People who really are in poverty because they don't have a job. Otherwise, STFU and build some decent cars. If you can't save for retirement, that's on you.

Take a money management course, assuming you know how to add and subtract.

Oh, and I'll ask it a third time: Are you (or were you) seriously comparing an appearance by a media personality (not even heard in the market) and the Wood County tornado as equal importance "breaking news"? Still avoiding the question...as usual.

Make sure to cut and paste your response. I'm used to it from you.

They are handing out parkas in Hades for sure because I agree 100% with Annie on that statement.

I'm telling you that 49% of Americans don't pay federal taxes and the number is rising. Now do you like to shoulder the burden because Americans can't make it here because of the race to the bottom caused by globalization? Talk about government subsidized business the model to beat is the totalitarian capitalist state of China who targets industry after industry with government funds to steal our economic might while we play the world's police with borrowed money. The latest target was solar energy and now because the foolish Americans want the cheap they are in hock to China for I believe over a trillion dollars. How does this play with your free market capitalist system bellying up to communists that pay pennies on the dollar wages a virtual slave state that is sucking us down to their level. You see the Reagan revolution brought us economic destruction. Turning our economic greatness into a banana republic in hock for a next hundred years. Reagan turned our country into a debtor nation by giving tax cuts to the wealthy while exploding the military budget. This created a false economy based on a run on the nations credit card. Clinton was the only president to finally leave with a surplus budget. I'm no fan of Clinton either because his trade policy along with Reagan, and the Bushes gave away the farm to the point of where we are today. So all you angry nutjob fanatic tea party sympathizers better look at the big picture it didn't happen in the last two years as the corporate chearleader Grover Norquest would have you all believe. Giving the reins to a Perry or a Romney will only continue the race to the bottom till we all live in communal housing next to our place of employment.

Census: U.S. poverty rate rises to 15.1 percent
Number of uninsured hits high of 49.9 million
http://www.toledoblade.com/Economy/2011/09/13/Census-US-poverty-rate-rises-to-15-point-1-percent.html
WASHINGTON — The ranks of the nation's poor swelled to nearly 1 in 6 people last year, reaching a new high as long-term unemployment woes left millions of Americans struggling and out of work. The number of uninsured edged up to 49.9 million, the biggest in over two decades.

"Americans can't make it here because of the race to the bottom caused by globalization?" While I agree our trade contracts are out of date and we must re-think them, hasn't stopped the Messiah from handing them out like candy.

The failure of your logic is we can't forced other countries to buy our higher cost goods instead of China. They are eating our lunch with OTHER COUNTRIES, you gonna bomb France to make them buy our widgets?

Reagan turned our country into a debtor nation by giving tax cuts to the wealthy while exploding the military budget. - Obama has slowed down defense spending right?

This created a false economy based on a run on the nations credit card. - And Barry has been running them through the reader so fast they have started to melt. You act like he has been anything but a Neo-Con Corporate Crony Capitalist, he is more Regan than Bush was.

Giving the reins to a Perry or a Romney will only continue the race to the bottom till we all live in communal housing next to our place of employment. - Finally something I can agree with.

Vote for real change = Paul 2012