So the Stroh Center at BGSU opened this last week and this is a video the university put together to commemorate the event. Some of it is hilarious, but rapping about how much money was donated to build the place seems kind of tacky. Thoughts?
Stroh Center Rap
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wow. tacky indeed. would have been pretty impressive if that aspect weren't so distracting.
The donors were in the video and obviously consented, so I don't see it being tacky. Besides, if I gave $8m for a new HS gym, I would want people to know it!
whats tacky about it? people need to know these things cost money and i am sure the donors liked the props. is it because they "rapped"? why do people sit on the edge of theor toilet seats looking for things to complain about? that center looks amazing.
rap music-check
money references just like rap videos-check
women dressed up like a hooker-check
making fun of old white guys-check
I'd not only call it tacky, but I'm guessing BG is looking to fill their student body with black students.
I would love to see the reaction if it was a "white" singer and they made the black men who donated money look silly.
I'm not a big politically correct fan, but this looks like something from the BG NAACP office.
posted by hockeyfan on Sep 10, 2011 at 11:59:07 pm # 2 people liked this
The only things they missed was the grabbing of the crotch, very close a couple of times, but no cigar, the pants being worn down around their knees, and lastly, thanking the lord jesus christ for giving them the opportunity to make the video.
I didn't watch it, but did this video get nominated on the Mtv VMAs?
More worship of money, that's what's wrong with hip hop.
H.F. is absolutely correct. He sees the underlying message in this offensive video. BGSU obviously intends to field a tattooed, crotch-grabbing, all-black ice hockey team.
posted by charlotte on Sep 11, 2011 at 08:03:37 am # 3 people liked this
LMAO!
Sadly, some people will read that and not get the joke.
Hockeyfan said:
"I'd not only call it tacky, but I'm guessing BG is looking to fill their student body with black students."
Because white people like Eminem, Sage Francis, Mac Miller, Aesop Rock, Blame One, Kno, Chris Webby, Asher Roth, Slug, Brother Ali, El-P, and Cage have zero interest in hip-hop and rap, and we all know that only African Americans like rap and hip-hop. </end sarcasm>
If I am driving down the street and I hear a car blasting intensely and annoyingly loud rap and hip-hop, it is better than even money that it is some skinny white kid making all the 130-decibel ruckus. This holds true no matter what part of town I find myself, so none of the "that's cuz you live in a 75 percent white neighborhood" nonsense, please.
posted by historymike on Sep 11, 2011 at 12:25:33 pm # 2 people liked this
Just because you went and found some white rappers doesn't mean the music was made by or filled with a majority of blacks.
Here's the link to the billboard top 10 rap/hip hop songs of 2011. Unless I'm wrong, not one is white or on your "list"
http://www.billboard.com/charts/r-b-hip-hop-songs#/charts/r-b-hip-hop-songs
As far as your reference to little white boys acting like punk hip hop/rap stars, that's due to the attitude it portrays. Money, attitude, and disreguard for women.
As far as your percentage of finding them to be mostly white, apparently you drive in only certain neighborhoods.
I never said that only african americans like hip hop and rap. Besides eminem, can you really compare any white rapper or hip hop artist that has had similar exposure, promotion, or success? I didn't think so. Vanilla Ice?
you guys are ridiculous.
as a BGSU grad... i really enjoyed this fun video
something fun to honor the HUGE donations from alum.
Hockeyfan:
My point was that all sorts of people listen to rap and hip-hop. Your words state that if BGSU uses rap or hip-hop in an ad, that it "wants to fill up its student body with black students." Ergo: by your reasoning, white students will not be attracted to BGSU by hip-hop and rap, but black students will.
Now, to see your further spin on your original statement....
posted by historymike on Sep 11, 2011 at 02:52:26 pm #
Oh, and hockeyfan? If you want to cite Billboard, you should certainly be smart enough to know that this chart reflects sales. As in music sales. As in music bought by blacks, whites, and every other conceivable skin color out there.
But thanks for proving my point for me.
posted by historymike on Sep 11, 2011 at 02:54:42 pm #
Besides eminem, can you really compare any white rapper or hip hop artist that has had similar exposure, promotion, or success? I didn't think so. Vanilla Ice?
These guys have sold 62 million albums. I'd call that successful.
posted by Ace_Face on Sep 11, 2011 at 03:41:28 pm # 2 people liked this
I never said blacks are the only race to listen to rap music. You named a bunch of "white" rappers which probably took you hours to find online to try and show that there weren't only "black" rappers. I also never said that "blacks" are the only ones to buy rap music.
And yes, just like the Beastie Boys, there are some white rap/hip hop artists that are successful, but to be honest, they are a group, not a single artist like the extreme talent of Biggie Smalls, Coolio, T.I., Ice T, Ice Cube, Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Lil Kim, Flavor Flav, Chuck D,Chingy, Nelly, Ludacris, 50 cent, Drake, Young Jeezy, etc.
How can you argue that hip hop and rap music is not dominated mostly by black artists and fans? I don't remember seeing BET having the BET White Hip Hop or Rap awards.
Why a rap song? Is it the number one type of music or most popular? Would they have gotten less attention or less of a message with a non-rap song and being sung by someone like Katy Perry?
Maybe those in charge just like rap music so much that they decided to make a tribute video featuring rap music. Those old guys sure look like they enjoy a little free style rap contest now and then. yo-yo-yo, keep on rappin
<facepalm>
posted by historymike on Sep 11, 2011 at 10:21:27 pm #
Hockey,
I really hope you are just flaming this thread. I often disagree with your POV, but I never thought you were stupid.
The donors would absolutely have ben given a chance to review this video before it was finalized - $10 million gets you a lot of buy in. I'm not sure how this thing could be viewed as black propaganda, other than by someone looking for a reason to be offended. Finding some nefarious purpose in that video is asinine, especially considering the fact that the guys who came up with the idea and produced the video are 5 or 6, 30-something, caucasian graphic design nerds.
posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Sep 11, 2011 at 10:59:50 pm # 2 people liked this
I'm with MTR on this... HF you are completely over reacting in the wrong direction
posted by upso on Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:40 pm # 1 person liked this
over reacting? I'm not petitioning BG to remove the video, nor am I lighting my torch or sharpening my pitchfork.
The post was started by someone who thought it was "tacky". I agree for the reasons I've posted.
Once again, as I've posted before, this is a message board on the internet. It is slightly more than a place to throw random thoughts out and see how they bounce off others. I do not agree with the video, the context, or what it portrays.
I think the video is pretty funny. A little long and corny. Tacky? meh.
I for one am offended that they would exploit elderly white people in this video. But seriously HF, chill the fuck out man.
posted by hunkytownsausage on Sep 12, 2011 at 08:44:22 am # 2 people liked this
Does anyone know who did the video?
I like the fact that it shows that money outside of tuition goes to the University. That donors/alumni stay with BGSU long after they graduated. As for the black/white issue - it looks more like they are spoofing old men. These guys are well educated adults. If they didn't like how they were portrayed they would have shut it down.
Lastly, I think its good but not great. There is something missing that I can't put my finger on (I guess I feel like this is a little behind in the times if that makes sense). I DO think they could have gone without the snow angels in the money on the court.
posted by Molsonator on Sep 12, 2011 at 09:24:47 am #
I rather enjoyed it. I thought the video was cute. I did not see any disrespect of 3 past alumni who happen to still love their school.
We are living, not in the 50's any more. The next round of Alumni of the future is the students that are attending there now. Maybe in 50-60 years it will be a black man's name on one of their new buildings.
posted by ToledoLatina on Sep 12, 2011 at 09:44:37 am # 1 person liked this
Cute video of a white guy rapping for Hockeyfan...
The video is well produced and it also reminded me that popcorn chicken is back.
Incase the embedded didn't work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QbJiZxuY5xw
Ice T,
While your listing names, your forgetting most of these singers originally came from groups.
Ice Cube, Dr. Dre - NWA
Lil Wayne - HOT BOYS
Snoop Dogg -
Flavor Flav - PUBLIC ENEMY
Nelly - SAINT LUNITICS
Ludacris - DTP
50 cent - G-UNIT
Drake - YMCM
posted by ToledoLatina on Sep 12, 2011 at 10:56:47 am #
Here is more blatant pandering to Blacks - pretty soon all my homies will be ridin' on dubs in they Swagga Wagons!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-N3F1FhW4
Oh yeah, there's this one, too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOKuSQIJlog
If nothing else, this thread reminded me about these videos...
posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Sep 12, 2011 at 12:51:04 pm #
13 News ran a story about this video this morning. It was in regards to all the positive attention it has received, nationwide. Glad to see it.
posted by Ryan on Oct 15, 2011 at 10:55:54 am # 1 person liked this
Cool.
posted by Molsonator on Oct 15, 2011 at 11:25:22 am # 1 person liked this
I'm more offended by the HF post saying the girl looked like a hooker. That dress she is wearing is beautiful! And I don't remember ever seeing a hooker in films wearing pearls.
posted by toledolen_ on Oct 15, 2011 at 03:33:51 pm #
What about Pretty Woman? That's based on a true story, right?
posted by MoreThanRhetoric on Oct 15, 2011 at 04:23:14 pm #
The higher end hookers I frequest always dress like that. I don't frequent the torn jeans and tube top types.
From ESPN.com
You have a new arena. You want to introduce fans to said arena. How do you go about doing it?
You could issue a news release. You could film a guided tour. Or, you could do what Bowling Green did -- and create the single greatest arena-themed rap video in the history of the genre.
That's not damning with faint praise, either. See for yourself:
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Wow!
posted by oldhometown on Oct 26, 2011 at 11:05:05 pm #
That's very very cool.
posted by toledolen_ on Oct 27, 2011 at 04:56:32 pm #
I think it's great! Nice to see everyone involved has a sense of humor.
ESPN just had Roscoe, the rapper in this video, on the telecast for the BG/Ohio game. The video has over 121,000 views right now and is getting positive press.
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