"FINALLY TRIED TO FACE THE JUDGE IN MICHIGAN"

"Everyone who is aware of my not being able to renew my CDL because of a citation I recieved on 02/05/2009 for "suspended license" that the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles told the Judge "the charge is unfounded and my license was "NOT UNDER SUSPENSION IN OHIO" But Judge Charles Lasata of the 2nd michigan circuit court Refuse's to take the word of the "STATE OF OHIO"

I've tried "every possiable"venue for help "but no such luck" I scrapped up enough money to pay a man $75.00 to drive me up to St.Joseph Mich on 09/09 and while going through Eklhart,Ind. we were in a crash that
totaled my pichup,no one in the other vehicle was hurt,but I recieved a bad bump to my head,cuts on my left leg and arm and "Really badly bruised my chest and apparently my lungs cuz I have a rough time walking 50 feet.

I became so depressed and filled with anexiety that I told the cops at the crash scene "LET ME BORROW YR GUN AND I'LL JUST BLOW MY BRAINS OUT"!! They had no sence of humor or saw the justice in that, so they had me commited to Elkhart General Hospital's space cadet ward from Friday am until 10:00pm Sunday night when my sister and brother in law drove up to pick me up "! "So now I will have to come up with another $200.00 to pay for gas and someone else to drive me up there "AGAIN"

I guess when they called the wife and told her about the crash"her remark was, "I HOPE HE WAS KILLED "

Suggestions; "ANYONE", or maybe better " borrow yr gun.?

"AND ALL OF THIS DUE TO A CITATION I AM NOT GUILTY OF AND A STUBBORN JUDGE"!

created by blacjac687 on Sep 15, 2011 at 01:39:02 pm Home Comments: 13

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...when bad luck and bureaucracy meet.

posted by OmarLittle on Sep 15, 2011 at 02:16:35 pm # 1 person liked this

Curious but why can't this be taken care of over certified mail?

Lawyer up, maybe someone will work pro bono.

posted by INeedCoffee on Sep 15, 2011 at 02:46:54 pm #

Forgot to add I'm very sorry to hear about this blackjack. Hope you feel better and can get this resolved.

posted by INeedCoffee on Sep 15, 2011 at 02:47:19 pm #

Time for a reality check.
First, instead of just biting the bullet and getting this taken care of, it has spiralled out of control until you realized that you had to face the music.
I'm not sure who you "hired" to drive you to ST. Joseph, but according to most maps, taking the turnpike to Indiana and then north to St. Joseph is the way to go. Turnpike being the safest route. Somehow you end up in Elkhart, Indiana, which you would had to exit the turnpike to get to, and end up having a crash that totalled your truck. Not a fender-bender, but a full blown totalling of your truck that included another vehicle. I'm assuming it was a head-on collision? Then, in another moment of insanity, you make a comment to the police in which you thought they would just "Laugh it off"?

And to boot, you blame a wrong citation and a stubborn judge.
I'm sorry, but I am so sick and tired of people blaming everyone and everything for their problems. You could have avoided all this hassle by just addressing the issue personally. Instead, you chose to dance around directly handling it and as you can see, it's much worse now.
I'd love to hear the details of your "accident". Let me guess, the road was too dark? too skinny? or your truck was not built right? bad brakes? bad steering?
After being involved in courts from 2 states, a totally truck in another, and a stay in a third state's mental hospital, maybe getting your CDL back isn't such a good idea.

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 15, 2011 at 03:59:19 pm # 7 people liked this

It seems like blacjac would benefit from legal representation on this issue. Which I believe was suggested to him when he originally asked for advice on the situation.

What I'm about to say is meant in the kindest way possible (even though it may sound not-so-nice): A big component of successfully dealing with the legal system involves being able to get your point across clearly, concisely, and respectfully. An attorney could be a great benefit in that regard. I think, perhaps, that blacjac might struggle in his communications with the court. (As evidenced in part by the fact that his interaction with police officers lead to a hospital stay.)

I'm truly not trying to be unkind, but I think the best move blacjac could make would be to hire an attorney and let the attorney do all of the talking with the judge.

Perhaps it would even be possible for the attorney to appear in court on blacjac's behalf, and that way he wouldn't have to drive up there again?

posted by mom2 on Sep 15, 2011 at 04:58:36 pm # 1 person liked this

A big component of successfully dealing with the legal system involves being able to get your point across clearly, concisely, and respectfully.

Truth. I've been reading your account since its inception, and most of what I hear is a bunch of yada-yada-yada it's not my fault! yada-yada it's the judge yada-yada besides, how could it be my fault when everybody who knows me will tell you that I would never yada-yada.

Put a sock in it.

If you're legit and actually have your paperwork in order and you can prove it, meaning you'll show the driver your paperwork including the court date, I'll see if I can find you a driver, and all it'll cost you is the gas money and tolls if you take the toll road. Mind you, I said IF, and bear in mind that the people I know do not screw around. If you get up there and it turns out this whole thing is a big story, you'll end up walking home from St. Joe. In addition, you have to give up making smart remarks to the police about guns and suicide. Police, and especially Michigan police, have no sense of humor where that kind of thing is concerned. And while I'm at it, you can tell the old ball and chain that if some cop calls about anything, she can park her smart mouth at the curb right alongside the broom. She's supposed to help make things better, not throw gasoline on the fire.

Now me, I'd let a lawyer handle the whole thing and pay the legal eagle off after my first week back at work. But that's just me.

From HockeyFan: I'm sorry, but I am so sick and tired...

Funny, you don't sound all that sick and tired. :)

posted by madjack on Sep 15, 2011 at 05:20:03 pm # 6 people liked this

mom2's got the right idea, blacjac. There are some things in life that I'm not very good at and I let professionals do them for me. A lawyer would be a very good investment for you.

posted by viola on Sep 15, 2011 at 05:40:32 pm # 1 person liked this

Lots of sensible advice here, blackjac687. A good lawyer would have straightened this out a long time ago.

Also, not to be mean: you sound like you are at least middle aged, perhaps in the 55-60 range. IMHO you are way too old to be making dangerous statements like you did around a cop. They are trained and obligated to act in certain fashions when they believe someone is a risk to harm themselves or others, and "I'll just blow my brains out" is almost guaranteed to get you a 72-hour trip to a psych ward. Heck, you are lucky you didn't get Tazered and sedated with the "borrow your gun" comment, or that they did not throw in a felony menacing or attempted assault charge.

posted by historymike on Sep 15, 2011 at 06:07:56 pm # 2 people liked this

Your right history mike; I should have kept my big mouth shut.! and Hockey Fan; your crass and unfeeling comments show that you don't believe in putting yourself in the other persons shoes before opening your trap."When a person has no one else to turn to" I at least thought people on this site could offer some semblance of understanding,"Mom2 and Viola" thank you both for your remarks, your Christianity is showing ladies..!

posted by blacjac687 on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:09:19 pm #

Maybe hockeyfan doesn't want to be your enabler, blacjac.

posted by charlotte on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:27:37 pm # 2 people liked this

Epic fail.

posted by OhioKimono on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:56:42 pm #

oh, I put myself in your shoes before I posted. The difference is that I have been in situations that were difficult and "Sucked" and were "Unfair", and the only difference I see is that I put on my big boy panties and faced the music.
From everything I read on your posts, I wondered how and why an adult could let something from 2009 go unresolved to the point that he had to post on Toledo Talk to get resolved? What did you really expect? Someone to post that they were a traffice law attorney and that they'd drive you up to Michigan to take care of this for you? Everyone has a "Right and wrong" meter in their head. No matter if they ask someone about what to do or not, they know what is right and wrong. You just chose to shut yours off.
This is your CDL we're talking about. Your job, your means of making a living. How do you go 3 years sitting around waiting for the "Ticket Fairy" to come and take care of everything while you play xbox and complain about the law, the courts and the judge, and how they all have it out for you?
I gave you honest, straight forward advice without sugar coating it. Bite the bullet, go where you need to go and get it resolved. Quit trying to find ways to get out of doing the dirty work.
But also, it sounds to me that there are more issues at hand here then you let on.
Your wife's comments to the police officer show some lack of compassion from the one person who should be showing the most. Maybe she's been down this road before with you? Maybe she knows that you lack responsibility. Pretty harsh words to be coming from your partner. Besides, why didn't your wife offer to drive you to your court appearance? Why did you have to hire someone to help? If getting this resolved gets you back on the road making money for the family, why wasn't she jumping at the chance to help?
I don't know you or your situation. Maybe my post was harsh, but pretty much every response you got on your previous post said to "Go get it taken care of". Maybe you were on your way to get it straightened out and maybe you weren't. The bottom line is that whoever was doing the driving wasn't very responsible either. You don't total a vehicle obeying driving laws and being careful. Notice in your post that you never said, "The other vehicle came into our lane" or "Out of nowhere a car side-swiped us" etc. You in fact, never gave any details.
I hope you get your life straightened out, but it sounds like this first step is gonna be a doozey. Life's best lessons are hardest learned.

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 22, 2011 at 03:52:45 pm # 3 people liked this

Yeah, blacjac, why doesn't your wife drive you up?

It's entirely possible to get crossways of a Michigan judge who is a real prick, and some of them are. Judge Robert Christiansen behaves like a real dildo if he finds out you're broke and don't have a good lawyer, or if you have a public defender. He'll find all kinds of excuses to make life hard for you.

Anyway, get an attorney or find a public defender that will help out. In fact, since this is in Michigan, you should try writing to Harold Fried of Fried, Sapperstein and Abbot. One phone call from Harold would likely make most of the crap that you say you're getting vanish.

posted by madjack on Sep 22, 2011 at 04:49:26 pm #

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