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Yeah! Toledo Zoo rolls on with more money waste

Now the zoo wants to buy Amhurst Drive because local residents complain about the noise from large trucks coming down the road?

This is a follow up to the levy announcement that the media seemed to ignore. So while the levy was originally a temporary one, now they label it "Not new, just a renewal". Well heck yeah, the zoo needs more money for the baby elephant, the great exhibits, and now their very own street. Rock on financial mismanagement. While they are at it, let's get all the animals to procreate so we can have many, many little cute baby animals that grow up and apparently no one wants to pay enough to see. Oh, just a footnote, the zoo also plans on raising their fees on Jan 1st. (Someone cue the disco hit, "More, more, more")

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posted by oldhometown on Sep 27, 2011 at 12:14:04 am     #  

I'm sure the zoo would prefer this one though:

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posted by oldhometown on Sep 27, 2011 at 12:15:54 am     #  

I dont think the levy was originally a temporary levy, I think levies like this have a max time length of five years. Levies for schools, townships, fire, etc can be perpetual or forever, but levies for zoo, Cosi, library, parks, csb, mr/dd, Tarta ... Did I miss any? ... have a max theoretically so voters can have accountability. But we're really lucky that these agencies take turns on the ballet so no more than one is being voted on at a time just so we don't get levy fatigue or concerned about the total cost.

posted by MsArcher on Sep 27, 2011 at 12:23:59 pm     #  

the street buy makes sense. i grew up on amherst and the zoo was a clear presence in our lives. having the zoo take over the street would significantly lessen their impact on the neighborhood.

as long as they maintained the road properly, year round, i don't see a big deal... though the flip side is, the neighbors that live on amherst would be significantly impacted if the zoo did not offer the proper maintenance

posted by upso on Sep 27, 2011 at 01:43:28 pm     #  

The original levy wasn't temporary? It wasn't permanent because they are asking to "renew" it or for a brand new one this year.

The street buy does not make sense. This is the same zoo that pleaded with Lucas county for a levy because they couldn't make ends meet. This is the same zoo that just "added" a baby elephant even though they can't make ends meet. Now, the zoo wants to spend, who knows how much, to buy a street because because of noisy trash trucks. How long have these trucks been going down this street? 50 years? And now it becomes an issue that the financially strapped zoo needs to buy a street to solve it?
Hey, the baby elephant is cute and probably brought in many more people, but soon it will be all grown up and the "cutesy" appeal will be gone and the zoo will be right back where it was. Broke. But this time they'll have another fully grown elephant to take care of. Great thinking.
So let's approve the levy so the zoo can what, buy part of Anthony Wayne Trail next year?

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 27, 2011 at 03:33:57 pm     #   1 person liked this

I must have been out of it...when did the zoo say they were "broke" or "financially strapped"?

posted by Molsonator on Sep 27, 2011 at 04:57:35 pm     #  

Typically the zoo birthed babies will not stay in Toledo. They will get sent to other zoos who pay our zoo for the animal.

posted by slowsol on Sep 27, 2011 at 05:00:28 pm     #  

Where have you been? They just got a levy passed a year ago because they couldn't make ends meet.
Remember, they used the polar bear cub as a heart string puller to get the levy passed. Now, they are once again showing their horrible accounting ability by offering to buy a street and asking for another levy.

Do you have any figures on what it costs to have a elephant baby or how much the zoo will get for "pimping" it out? I thought animals were "loaned" to other zoos and not purchased.

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 27, 2011 at 06:06:52 pm     #  

Animals are traded, loaned, or purchased. It depends on demand.

posted by slowsol on Sep 27, 2011 at 06:25:46 pm     #  

Wow HockeyFan, the zoo had worked up. Now show us on the doll where the elephant touched you.

posted by SensorG on Sep 27, 2011 at 08:19:00 pm     #   2 people liked this

A 'Zoo' is an antiquated institution, whether it is called savanna, bio park, etc. A 19th century phenom. Better to NOT keep these animals confined in an unnatural habitat. Use the 'zoo' as an enviroment to help us learn, travel & explore.

posted by Private on Sep 27, 2011 at 08:56:50 pm     #  

I always appreciate the Lucas County get-in-free time slots.

I don't know anything about the zoo management (probably some strong feelings on that here in Toledo) but I can tell that the institution is trying to fit themselves, their traffic, and their animals into a settled city neighborhood. Sometimes it takes a creative solution (like buying a street) to solve a few problems.

Toledo Hospital has enough pull in town to change city streets, buy vacant properties, demolish small commercial buildings, get the interstate exits rerouted for their grand entrance boulevard, etc.

I plan to use the zoo much more than the hospital!

posted by viola on Sep 27, 2011 at 10:19:00 pm     #   1 person liked this

I don't recall the hospital asking for levy money from taxpayers.

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 27, 2011 at 11:42:25 pm     #   1 person liked this

I don't recall the hospital asking for levy money from taxpayers.

No, but the majority of the construction work being done on I-475 is to serve Toledo Hospital. Your tax dollars at work, widening a road in a city that is losing population.

posted by Anniecski on Sep 28, 2011 at 09:30:24 am     #   2 people liked this

Also, the hospital gets a lot of money from Medicare and Medicaid as well...

posted by SensorG on Sep 28, 2011 at 09:43:29 am     #  

apples and oranges

posted by upso on Sep 28, 2011 at 09:46:38 am     #  

The zoo vs the hospital. We really aren't comparing the two are we?

posted by hockeyfan on Sep 28, 2011 at 02:20:37 pm     #  

Sounds like a smart buy on the zoo's part.

I'll gladly vote for the renewal.

posted by weasel on Sep 28, 2011 at 08:32:14 pm     #  

I find the headline "Zoo bids to purchase Amherst Drive" quite misleading. It makes it sound like the ZOO wants to purchase the entire street. Untrue. Only a very short section of the street which fronts the homes recently purchased by the ZOO (AW Trail to Dartmouth)is affected. They have no intentions of controlling the entire length all the way to Broadway.

posted by KraZyKat on Sep 29, 2011 at 11:53:53 am     #  

Krazy, thanks for the details. I didn't know they were referring to a small segment of a road, where they already own the houses.

The church south of the art museum (the one that was "On Fire for the Lord") has done the same thing. They owned several short blocks of old houses & asked the city to shut down the road so they could build on it instead.

posted by viola on Sep 29, 2011 at 07:15:34 pm     #  

If anyone would like to express these concerns for a news story, please e-mail me at

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